From jobah at sbcglobal.net  Fri Sep  1 00:58:52 2006
From: jobah at sbcglobal.net (Joseph)
Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2006 01:58:52 -0400
Subject: LDSC: Contacting SLC for missionary account changeover
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All of the responses were great, but no one actually printed the phone
number.  I don't have access to a phone roster with Church HQ numbers
on it, and I don't have any of them committed to memory (have only had
to call them once or twice in the past).  I couldn't find any numbers
on the internet or in other areas of this group.  Could someone please
e-mail me off post with the actual phone number to Church HQ?  Thanks!

Speaking of which... if viewing of the contents of this group is
restricted to only members, perhaps that would be a worthwhile item to
post in the "Files" area of the Yahoo group: a phone roster for Church
HQ that is...

Just food for thought.  Thanks in advance for everyone's help!

- Joseph



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From larson at aznex.net  Fri Sep  1 07:39:29 2006
From: larson at aznex.net (Reed)
Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2006 08:39:29 -0400
Subject: LDSC: President Kimball
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Also because the first time he was baptized in a big metal tub and his dad
was not standing in the water with Spencer when the baptism was done.  Some
felt that might not be proper. . .


_______________

President Kimball was baptized just before he turned 
12 because there was not record of his baptism, which 
everyone agreed had happened when he was eight.  But, 
they would not ordain him a deacon until the baptism 
was completed and recorded.  It's in his biography.  
(The first one.)

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From davevz at gmail.com  Fri Sep  1 10:26:36 2006
From: davevz at gmail.com (David Veasey)
Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2006 11:26:36 -0400
Subject: LDSC: President Kimball
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Any clerks reccomend any mapping software to import membership data into for
emergency preparednesS?  I need good printing options with it.  Delorme is
not cutting it.

On 9/1/06, Reed <larson at aznex.net> wrote:
>
> Also because the first time he was baptized in a big metal tub and his dad
> was not standing in the water with Spencer when the baptism was
> done.  Some
> felt that might not be proper. . .
>
>
> _______________
>
> President Kimball was baptized just before he turned
> 12 because there was not record of his baptism, which
> everyone agreed had happened when he was eight.  But,
> they would not ordain him a deacon until the baptism
> was completed and recorded.  It's in his biography.
> (The first one.)
>
>



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From allen.dreher at gmail.com  Fri Sep  1 11:30:15 2006
From: allen.dreher at gmail.com (allen dreher)
Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2006 12:30:15 -0400
Subject: LDSC: Ex. Secretary ?'s
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To be a web site administrator, you'll need to go through the bishop and he
will set you up. You'll then set up your own user name and password (you'll
need you baptism and confirmation date for this part). When you log in from
then on, you will see on the bottom left portion of your screen
"Administrator." You can change everything, including the "intro page" that
everyone sees when they log on to your unit.

I currently have been assigned the tast for our ward. I'm a little behind,
but like keeping track of the callings, if you stay on top of it, it doesn't
become a monster.

Allen Dreher
Stake MLS Clerk
San Antonio Texas Stake

On 8/31/06, Big Al <Go4milk at aol.com> wrote:
>
>
> A very big THANK YOU to all those who responded to my e-mail about the
> forms, both on this list and in private.  I got some great examples.
> It is wonderful to see the efforts being put forth in your callings
> to "make the bishop look good".
>
> I talked with the bishop last night and he admits they need help, so
> with the tools I've received here I hope to do that.
>
> There has been some talk about websites of late here.  That is one of
> my responsibilities as ES, to maintain the ward website.  The stake
> clerk, who handles the stake site and administers all the wards tells
> me there is no printed manual or instructions covering the web sites.
> A lot of the tasks are pretty forward on the site but I was hoping for
> something more.  Also I remember once another yahoo? group was going
> for web sites administrators? Thanks for any help you can provide.
>
> Al Lacy
>




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From sl1r3 at yahoo.com  Fri Sep  1 23:00:24 2006
From: sl1r3 at yahoo.com (Rob)
Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2006 00:00:24 -0400
Subject: LDSC: Stake directories and Calendar Creator
Message-ID: <20060902040024.85558.qmail@web36104.mail.mud.yahoo.com>


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Hi,

I'm in charge of putting together our stake directory for 2007 and I was looking for some tips, pointers, templates, etc. from any of you who have done this recently or in years past.

I have purchased a copy of Calendar Creator 12 Deluxe, but I have heard from a few people that they prefer the older version (i.e. version 3??) because it has some features that were removed from the newer versions? Something to do with the grouping or placement of multiple events on one day? Does anyone have any more details on this? Does anyone know how I can get a copy of the preferred older version of Calendar Creator?

Does anyone have a template that they'd be willing to share for their stake calendar? I know I could use Word for the calendar, but I want to use Calendar Creator so that I can easily create PDFs, CSV export files, and possibly exchange events with the wards in the Stake.

How about a template for the stake directory? It would be nice if there was a fairly simple way to take the exported data (or copied data) for leadership from MLS and easily create a nice formatted directory. I know I can easily dump things into Excel and Word from MLS, but I will have to add things like High Councilor assignments. Plus we typically group each high council adviser with the various organizations they are responsible for. There's definitely more than one way to skin a cat -- so I'm open to comments or suggestions.

Finally, I noticed that there's not too much on the 2007 months for the Church calendar at lds.org -- seems a bit barren. How do you typically find out what church-wide events are schedule for 2007. Do you typically schedule stake/ward events first and then go back and re-schedule them if they conflict with  church-wide events?

Do you typically do 12 month or 18 month calendars? I'm curious how you coordinate when the planning is done for an 18 month calendar? Do you plan for the next 18 months every 12 months or every 18 months? It seems that planning for 18 months can be hard since you don't always have times and dates for things in the following year -- i.e. Temple closure dates, church wide events, etc.

Thanks!

Rob
Assistant Stake Clerk
Colorado Springs

 


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From dotteson at cableone.net  Fri Sep  1 23:15:58 2006
From: dotteson at cableone.net (Dennis Otteson)
Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2006 00:15:58 -0400
Subject: LDSC: Contacting SLC for missionary account changeover
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800-537-5932
50 East North Temple Street
Salt Lake City, Ut

This is the number that I have used.

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Subject: Re: LDSC: Contacting SLC for missionary account changeover


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All of the responses were great, but no one actually printed the phone
number.  I don't have access to a phone roster with Church HQ numbers
on it, and I don't have any of them committed to memory (have only had
to call them once or twice in the past).  I couldn't find any numbers
on the internet or in other areas of this group.  Could someone please
e-mail me off post with the actual phone number to Church HQ?  Thanks!

Speaking of which... if viewing of the contents of this group is
restricted to only members, perhaps that would be a worthwhile item to
post in the "Files" area of the Yahoo group: a phone roster for Church
HQ that is...

Just food for thought.  Thanks in advance for everyone's help!

- Joseph



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From embunker817 at msn.com  Sat Sep  2 02:43:40 2006
From: embunker817 at msn.com (Eric Bunker)
Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2006 03:43:40 -0400
Subject: LDSC: Re: Stake directories and Calendar Creator
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We don't do stake directories for the general membership anymore.  I do stake lists in Excel and e-mail it to the stake leadership about once a month because our growth is rapid enough.  I generally have one spreadsheet alphabetized by stake and one by ward.  I generally format the pages so that they can be printed as is.

We don't print up calendars either.  We tell all of the stake leadership to go to the stake website and print what they need.  We ask the High Council to check their stake web calendar once a week at least as we are constantly making changes in it.  We tell our wards not to print calendars but to have the members go the website.  Ward and stake lists are also on the websites.

There are some of the stake leaders that prefer a printed stake list so I dump a MLS file into Excel and print it up for the few.

We have stake leadership contact information that we keep updated and emailed out.  We also keep up our building schedules and keep them emailed out.  We have close to 10 stakes that are sharing buildings with each other so we keep schedules for five stakes.  It is quite a moving target for us.

We have developed and Excel spreadsheet that we use to keep all of the stake presidency and High Council  contact information and assignments on.  It has been right handy as it has so much on just one page.  If any stake clerk would like the blank form, I would be glad to send it if you email me personally.

Eric 

Clerk
Queen Creek Arizona Stake   

 
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  Cc: Rob<mailto:sl1r3 at yahoo.com> 
  Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006 9:00 PM
  Subject: LDSC: Stake directories and Calendar Creator



  Hi,

  I'm in charge of putting together our stake directory for 2007 and I was looking for some tips, pointers, templates, etc. from any of you who have done this recently or in years past.

  I have purchased a copy of Calendar Creator 12 Deluxe, but I have heard from a few people that they prefer the older version (i.e. version 3??) because it has some features that were removed from the newer versions? Something to do with the grouping or placement of multiple events on one day? Does anyone have any more details on this? Does anyone know how I can get a copy of the preferred older version of Calendar Creator?

  Does anyone have a template that they'd be willing to share for their stake calendar? I know I could use Word for the calendar, but I want to use Calendar Creator so that I can easily create PDFs, CSV export files, and possibly exchange events with the wards in the Stake.

  How about a template for the stake directory? It would be nice if there was a fairly simple way to take the exported data (or copied data) for leadership from MLS and easily create a nice formatted directory. I know I can easily dump things into Excel and Word from MLS, but I will have to add things like High Councilor assignments. Plus we typically group each high council adviser with the various organizations they are responsible for There's definitely more than one way to skin a cat -- so I'm open to comments or suggestions.

  Finally, I noticed that there's not too much on the 2007 months for the Church calendar at lds.org -- seems a bit barren. How do you typically find out what church-wide events are schedule for 2007. Do you typically schedule stake/ward events first and then go back and re-schedule them if they conflict with  church-wide events?

  Do you typically do 12 month or 18 month calendars? I'm curious how you coordinate when the planning is done for an 18 month calendar? Do you plan for the next 18 months every 12 months or every 18 months? It seems that planning for 18 months can be hard since you don't always have times and dates for things in the following year -- i.e. Temple closure dates, church wide events, etc.

  Thanks!

  Rob
  Assistant Stake Clerk
  Colorado Springs

   




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From russellhltn at gmail.com  Sat Sep  2 04:58:15 2006
From: russellhltn at gmail.com (RussellHltn)
Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2006 05:58:15 -0400
Subject: LDSC: Stake directories and Calendar Creator
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Way back in the DOS days we used to use Calendar Creator.  In fact the stake
bought a copy for all the wards and distributed the stake calendar on
diskette.  But we've discontinued that since getting on the local unit web
page.  

Sure CC is nice, but the information needs to be accessible - and on the web
page.  It's not as convenient, but it's too much work to keep two calendar
systems matched up.  And the problems it can create when there is an error
isn't worth it.

We tend to put all the stake stuff including leadership meetings on the
stake calendar.  If it's of interest to the members beyond the Bishoprics
and Presidencies, then we'll turn on the flag to push the event down to the
ward calendars.


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From cwha at ldskc.org  Sat Sep  2 08:56:16 2006
From: cwha at ldskc.org (Chuck Anderson)
Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2006 09:56:16 -0400
Subject: LDSC: Stake directories and Calendar Creator
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Forget about Calendar Creator.  It only exists on your computer and
you have to print calendar pages via PDF to share it with others.

The Church has provided a wonderful tool called the "Stake and Ward
Web Sites".  You need to become a Stake Web Administrator so you can
update the "online" calendar for your Stake, and you can click on an
option for appropriate Stake events to appear on the individual Ward
calendars automatically.
This way, ALL Stake members can view your calendar and see any
updated events as soon as you type them in -- it's "live" and "real
time".  Also, if you choose, you can print the calendar pages (one
month at a time) to a PDF document to give to antique members that
don't or won't use the Stake and Ward Web Site.


Chuck Anderson
cwha at ldskc.org



On Sep 1, 2006, at 11:00 PM, Rob wrote:
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm in charge of putting together our stake directory for 2007 and
> I was looking for some tips, pointers, templates, etc. from any of
> you who have done this recently or in years past.
>
> I have purchased a copy of Calendar Creator 12 Deluxe, but I have
> heard from a few people that they prefer the older version (i.e.
> version 3??) because it has some features that were removed from
> the newer versions? Something to do with the grouping or placement
> of multiple events on one day? Does anyone have any more details on
> this? Does anyone know how I can get a copy of the preferred older
> version of Calendar Creator?
>
> Does anyone have a template that they'd be willing to share for
> their stake calendar? I know I could use Word for the calendar, but
> I want to use Calendar Creator so that I can easily create PDFs,
> CSV export files, and possibly exchange events with the wards in
> the Stake.
>
> How about a template for the stake directory? It would be nice if
> there was a fairly simple way to take the exported data (or copied
> data) for leadership from MLS and easily create a nice formatted
> directory. I know I can easily dump things into Excel and Word from
> MLS, but I will have to add things like High Councilor assignments.
> Plus we typically group each high council adviser with the various
> organizations they are responsible for. There's definitely more
> than one way to skin a cat -- so I'm open to comments or suggestions.
>
> Finally, I noticed that there's not too much on the 2007 months for
> the Church calendar at lds.org -- seems a bit barren. How do you
> typically find out what church-wide events are schedule for 2007.
> Do you typically schedule stake/ward events first and then go back
> and re-schedule them if they conflict with  church-wide events?
>
> Do you typically do 12 month or 18 month calendars? I'm curious how
> you coordinate when the planning is done for an 18 month calendar?
> Do you plan for the next 18 months every 12 months or every 18
> months? It seems that planning for 18 months can be hard since you
> don't always have times and dates for things in the following year
> -- i.e. Temple closure dates, church wide events, etc.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Rob
> Assistant Stake Clerk
> Colorado Springs
>
>



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From cwha at ldskc.org  Sat Sep  2 08:58:11 2006
From: cwha at ldskc.org (Chuck Anderson)
Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2006 09:58:11 -0400
Subject: LDSC: Contacting SLC for missionary account changeover
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The published "general" number for the SLC Church officies is:
800-453-3860
Then, if you wish MLS or Web support, just key in the extension of
23500 when the automated system answers.
Or, if you want something else, wait for a "real" operator to answer
and tell her whom you want to talk to.

Chuck Anderson
cwha at ldskc.org



On Sep 1, 2006, at 11:15 PM, Dennis Otteson wrote:
>
> 800-537-5932
> 50 East North Temple Street
> Salt Lake City, Ut
>
> This is the number that I have used.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-ldsclerks at MormonsToday.com
> [mailto:owner-ldsclerks at MormonsToday.com] On Behalf Of Joseph
> Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 11:59 PM
> To: ldsclerks at MormonsToday.com
> Cc: Joseph
> Subject: Re: LDSC: Contacting SLC for missionary account changeover
>
>
> All of the responses were great, but no one actually printed the phone
> number.  I don't have access to a phone roster with Church HQ numbers
> on it, and I don't have any of them committed to memory (have only had
> to call them once or twice in the past).  I couldn't find any numbers
> on the internet or in other areas of this group.  Could someone please
> e-mail me off post with the actual phone number to Church HQ?  Thanks!
>
> Speaking of which... if viewing of the contents of this group is
> restricted to only members, perhaps that would be a worthwhile item to
> post in the "Files" area of the Yahoo group: a phone roster for Church
> HQ that is...
>
> Just food for thought.  Thanks in advance for everyone's help!
>
> - Joseph
>
>



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From alan at alanandkai.net  Sat Sep  2 16:25:02 2006
From: alan at alanandkai.net (Alan Morgan)
Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2006 17:25:02 -0400
Subject: LDSC: Stake directories and Calendar Creator
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Last year I created a stake calendar program for our stake.  We 
entered all the stake data then put a copy of the program and 
database on every ward's computer.

There are two distinct advantages to this program:

1) the wards could add whatever they chose in addition to the stake data, and

2) BONUS! No pre-printing of the calendar -- the wards print/copy 
their own whenever they need it

Also, if a ward member wishes to add their own data before printing, 
the clerk can give a copy of the program and database to them.  Nifty!

It also exports to a CSV file for easy import into Outlook and other 
calendaring programs.  It is a stand-alone program and will 
automatically create a new database in the same folder as the EXE if 
one does not exist.  Here is the link:  http://alanandkai.net/santan/sc.zip

If you want to print a PDF, just grab one of the many free PDF 
printer drivers out there (one is http://www.primopdf.com).

Limitations right now include:

1) the database will always be named SanTan.dat (the name of my 
Gilbert Arizona stake), which really doesn't matter

2) if you want to make a 2006 calendar and a 2007 you must put the 
EXE in separate folders, as there can only be one database at a time 
(just make one folder called SC2006 and another SC2007 with a copy of 
the EXE in each and voila!)

Feel free to send me ideas.  I'm not yet sure how to implement the 
Import feature.

At 09:00 PM 9/1/2006, you wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I'm in charge of putting together our stake directory for 2007 and I 
>was looking for some tips, pointers, templates, etc. from any of you 
>who have done this recently or in years past.
>
>I have purchased a copy of Calendar Creator 12 Deluxe, but I have 
>heard from a few people that they prefer the older version (i.e. 
>version 3??) because it has some features that were removed from the 
>newer versions? Something to do with the grouping or placement of 
>multiple events on one day? Does anyone have any more details on 
>this? Does anyone know how I can get a copy of the preferred older 
>version of Calendar Creator?
>
>Does anyone have a template that they'd be willing to share for 
>their stake calendar? I know I could use Word for the calendar, but 
>I want to use Calendar Creator so that I can easily create PDFs, CSV 
>export files, and possibly exchange events with the wards in the Stake.
>
>How about a template for the stake directory? It would be nice if 
>there was a fairly simple way to take the exported data (or copied 
>data) for leadership from MLS and easily create a nice formatted 
>directory. I know I can easily dump things into Excel and Word from 
>MLS, but I will have to add things like High Councilor assignments. 
>Plus we typically group each high council adviser with the various 
>organizations they are responsible for. There's definitely more than 
>one way to skin a cat -- so I'm open to comments or suggestions.
>
>Finally, I noticed that there's not too much on the 2007 months for 
>the Church calendar at lds.org -- seems a bit barren. How do you 
>typically find out what church-wide events are schedule for 2007. Do 
>you typically schedule stake/ward events first and then go back and 
>re-schedule them if they conflict with  church-wide events?
>
>Do you typically do 12 month or 18 month calendars? I'm curious how 
>you coordinate when the planning is done for an 18 month calendar? 
>Do you plan for the next 18 months every 12 months or every 18 
>months? It seems that planning for 18 months can be hard since you 
>don't always have times and dates for things in the following year 
>-- i.e. Temple closure dates, church wide events, etc.
>
>Thanks!
>
>Rob
>Assistant Stake Clerk
>Colorado Springs



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From jima at pacifier.com  Sat Sep  2 19:31:42 2006
From: jima at pacifier.com (Adamson)
Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2006 20:31:42 -0400
Subject: LDSC: Re: Stake directories and Calendar Creator
References: <20060902040024.85558.qmail@web36104.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <016401c6cef0$571366c0$0400a8c0@Adamson>


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Our stake has moved entirely to using the Stake and Ward web sites for the 
calendar and directory (2007 will be the second year of using the web 
sites).

Jim Adamson

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From: "Rob" <sl1r3 at yahoo.com>
Subject: LDSC: Stake directories and Calendar Creator


> Hi,
>
> I'm in charge of putting together our stake directory for 2007 and I was 
> looking for some tips, pointers, templates, etc. from any of you who have 
> done this recently or in years past.
>


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From dlyearsley at juno.com  Sat Sep  2 21:23:12 2006
From: dlyearsley at juno.com (David Yearsley Juno)
Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2006 22:23:12 -0400
Subject: LDSC: Re: Stake directories and Calendar Creator
In-Reply-To: <016401c6cef0$571366c0$0400a8c0@Adamson>
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We will be starting our 3 year. We are also using the web for Resource
scheduling like ball fields and other properties. One change we are
implementing this year is that the building schedulers will be a stake
calling from now on not a ward calling. It takes time and patience to make
the switch, but in the end it is worth the effort.

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To: ldsclerks at MormonsToday.com
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Subject: LDSC: Re: Stake directories and Calendar Creator


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Our stake has moved entirely to using the Stake and Ward web sites for the 
calendar and directory (2007 will be the second year of using the web 
sites).

Jim Adamson

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From: "Rob" <sl1r3 at yahoo.com>
Subject: LDSC: Stake directories and Calendar Creator


> Hi,
>
> I'm in charge of putting together our stake directory for 2007 and I was 
> looking for some tips, pointers, templates, etc. from any of you who have 
> done this recently or in years past.
>


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From jworth1 at insightbb.com  Sun Sep  3 07:48:49 2006
From: jworth1 at insightbb.com (jworth1)
Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 08:48:49 -0400
Subject: LDSC: Re: Stake directories and Calendar Creator
References: <000501c6ceff$e9063bc0$0201a8c0@dlyearsley>
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But how does your stake handle those that don't have web access or just 
technologically challenged?

Thanks

Jeff Worthington
Morton Ward
Peoria IL Stake


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Subject: RE: LDSC: Re: Stake directories and Calendar Creator



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We will be starting our 3 year. We are also using the web for Resource
scheduling like ball fields and other properties. One change we are
implementing this year is that the building schedulers will be a stake
calling from now on not a ward calling. It takes time and patience to make
the switch, but in the end it is worth the effort.

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Our stake has moved entirely to using the Stake and Ward web sites for the
calendar and directory (2007 will be the second year of using the web
sites).

Jim Adamson

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From: "Rob" <sl1r3 at yahoo.com>
Subject: LDSC: Stake directories and Calendar Creator


> Hi,
>
> I'm in charge of putting together our stake directory for 2007 and I was
> looking for some tips, pointers, templates, etc. from any of you who have
> done this recently or in years past.
>


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From jworth1 at insightbb.com  Sun Sep  3 08:02:39 2006
From: jworth1 at insightbb.com (jworth1)
Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 09:02:39 -0400
Subject: LDSC: Re: Anti Virus Update on Local Meetinghouse Computers
References: <20050618205959.2F22B6CC53@mail02.powweb.com>
Message-ID: <000801c6cf59$3c39ae90$6401a8c0@JWORTH>


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Has anyone tried accessing the CommandCom virus definitions to get the 
updated files as this email previously described? I get an error just trying 
to access the site even before entering the login and password.

Thanks
Jeff Worthington
Morton Ward
Peoria IL Stake


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Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2005 3:59 PM
Subject: RE: LDSC: Re: Anti Virus Update on Local Meetinghouse Computers



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The Stake Clerk and Assistant Stake Clerk (Computers) have the username and
password to access the site for downloading information.  It is on the
bottom of the form used to order new computer equipment.  Personally, I use
the ftp site (ftp.commandcom.com), download the latest definition file
(defmsp.exe) and use the following commands in a batch file I have named
update.bat.  The batch file and the defmsp.exe are placed on a CD-ROM that I
give to each unit at the monthly Bishop's Training meeting.

@echo off
 echo Updating Anti-virus
 mkdir c:\~cavupdt
 copy defmsp.exe c:\~cavupdt
 c:
 cd \~cavupdt
 attrib -r *.*
 defmsp
 for %%a in (*.msp) do %%a
 cd \
 del /Q /F c:\~cavupdt\*.*
 rmdir ~cavupdt


I can not take credit for the batch file, someone on this list contributed
it last September.

I hope that explanation helps.

William Woodford
Stake Clerk
Fayetteville North Carolina West Stake

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Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2005 4:09 PM
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Subject: RE: LDSC: Re: Anti Virus Update on Local Meetinghouse Computers


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At 01:59 PM 6/18/2005, you wrote:

>I certainly would appreciate that convenience.  I have been "burning" a
>batch file and the Command Anti-virus update file once a month for the
>units to use to update their definitions.  I would much rather do this
>on a weekly basis but have no way to get the updates to the units easily
each week.
>

Bill:
         Never having used CAV before -- actually, until I looked at C:\
under My Computer today I didn't even know we had it! -- I would be
extremely interested in knowing how one goes about downloading the updated
antivirus files.  I went to the Authentium.com home page, but it appears
that one has to be  paying customer and also has to know which flavor of
their product one has.  It's probably a lot of trouble for you to go to, but
a detailed explanation of how one goes about downloading these updates and
then doing the actual updates would be very helpful -- to me if to no one
else!  :-D

Mitch Borden
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From drepouille at hotmail.com  Sun Sep  3 08:32:50 2006
From: drepouille at hotmail.com (Dana Repouille)
Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 09:32:50 -0400
Subject: LDSC: Re: Anti Virus Update on Local Meetinghouse Computers
In-Reply-To: <000801c6cf59$3c39ae90$6401a8c0@JWORTH>
Message-ID: <000101c6cf5d$73af1500$0600a8c0@D3NNWQ61>


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Try
http://www.authentium.com/support/updates.asp
 

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Subject: Re: LDSC: Re: Anti Virus Update on Local Meetinghouse Computers


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Has anyone tried accessing the CommandCom virus definitions to get the 
updated files as this email previously described? I get an error just trying

to access the site even before entering the login and password.

Thanks
Jeff Worthington
Morton Ward
Peoria IL Stake


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From russellhltn at gmail.com  Sun Sep  3 15:14:12 2006
From: russellhltn at gmail.com (RussellHltn)
Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 16:14:12 -0400
Subject: LDSC: Re: Anti Virus Update on Local Meetinghouse Computers
In-Reply-To: <000801c6cf59$3c39ae90$6401a8c0@JWORTH>
Message-ID: <001301c6cf95$86905340$6401a8c0@cciclass4>


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I just clicked on it and it works for me. 

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Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2006 3:03 AM
To: ldsclerks at MormonsToday.com
Cc: jworth1
Subject: Re: LDSC: Re: Anti Virus Update on Local Meetinghouse Computers


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Has anyone tried accessing the CommandCom virus definitions to get the
updated files as this email previously described? I get an error just trying
to access the site even before entering the login and password.

Thanks
Jeff Worthington
Morton Ward
Peoria IL Stake



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From russellhltn at gmail.com  Sun Sep  3 15:20:04 2006
From: russellhltn at gmail.com (RussellHltn)
Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 16:20:04 -0400
Subject: LDSC: Re: Stake directories and Calendar Creator
In-Reply-To: <001001c6cf57$4d901370$6401a8c0@JWORTH>
Message-ID: <001401c6cf96$58982d90$6401a8c0@cciclass4>


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Just about all the leaders have internet access.  I think the wards work out
something for those that don't.  Probably just having someone print the
calendar from the website.  After all, that's what you have to do with
Calendar Creator anyway.  For the bulk of the membership, there's still the
Sunday program.

Another issue is that back when we used to do CC, the ward and stake would
print a calendar for the whole year as part of planning.  But not everyone
got the updates and changes.  I think the website tends to encourage
everyone to stay current or at least not print out December's calendar the
year before.
 

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But how does your stake handle those that don't have web access or just
technologically challenged?

Thanks

Jeff Worthington
Morton Ward
Peoria IL Stake



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From bthomasj1971 at yahoo.com  Sun Sep  3 15:29:28 2006
From: bthomasj1971 at yahoo.com (bthomasj1971)
Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 16:29:28 -0400
Subject: LDSC: New policy for new computers
Message-ID: <edfdv8+2baq@eGroups.com>


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A while back I posted to the list about getting a new printer for
one of my wards.

I have addressed the issue with my local FM group, and as expected,
they were unaware that they are supposed to provide hardware now.

Does any one have a .PDF of the letter that was issued stating the
change in policy?  I have found in my archive a letter stating new
policy in Family History Centers, and it references a similar letter
specific to Clerks Offices dated in March 2005.

I cannot find the letter for the clerks offices.  I need it to send
to my local FM group so they will be more willing to help me get a
replacement printer.  I just had my second Laserjet 1100 fail in two
months, and I have a feeling the others will soon follow.

If anyone can find this please send me a copy, and it may also be a
good candidate to post in the "Files" section on the Yahoo group
page relating to this list.

Thanks!

~BT



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From mark_werner at byu.edu  Sun Sep  3 16:43:08 2006
From: mark_werner at byu.edu (Mark Werner)
Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 17:43:08 -0400
Subject: LDSC: Re: Stake directories and Calendar Creator
In-Reply-To: <000501c6ceff$e9063bc0$0201a8c0@dlyearsley>
Message-ID: <000401c6cfa1$f252e140$b702000a@MarkWD800>


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We have used the Web calendar as our official stake calendar since 2004. I
used Calendar Creator for years and still appreciate its flexibility
compared with the Web calendar (and the older versions WERE better, by the
way!). However, in the past, we would print the year's calendar and it would
be out of date in a matter of weeks, which often proved to be a problem.
Even though we would issue updates three or four times a year, I would often
find someone looking at the wrong version. Now there's no question about
which calendar is correct; it's whatever is currently on the Web site--and
anyone in the stake has access to it, compared with the relative few who
used to get the printed calendars.

We print a monthly stake leadership newsletter and include the upcoming two
to three months' calendar along with it. That's the extent of our printed
calendars. When wards are doing long-range planning, we ask them to check
the online stake calendar first. We also encourage the wards to use the Web
calendar to post their own activities.

I'm a big fan of the online calendar for at least a couple of reasons. The
first is that it allows you to include all kinds of details. I try to leave
very few activities without some kind of description, at the very least the
location and who is invited. (Our upcoming stake conference has a
description more than 200 words long!) That way there are fewer questions or
misunderstandings. The second reason is that it allows for quick updates.
Even though our stake hasn't done this very well as yet, I can envision, for
example, having a sports tournament where we could post results and adjust
the game schedules on the fly. Many of us are accustomed to looking on the
Web to see what is going on when in the world; why shouldn't we be able to
do that with Church activities?

Mark Werner
Stake Clerk
Provo Utah East Stake


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From embunker817 at msn.com  Sun Sep  3 17:47:35 2006
From: embunker817 at msn.com (Eric Bunker)
Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 18:47:35 -0400
Subject: LDSC: Re: Stake directories and Calendar Creator
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It has been interesting to see the resistance in the general membership having a web based calendar/announcements.  A number of times when we have called a new High Counselor, we will have to help set him up on the net as we don't print calendars for them anymore and just ask them to check the web once a week.

It seems that a number of people just feel much more comfortable with paper and ink in front of them.  My stake president and one of his counselors are that way.

One of the big expenses that we have in the church other than the physical building is paper and printing costs.  I wonder when it is going to be when we are asked not to print up Sacrament Meeting programs anymore and that all our ward announcements will just be on the web

Because of our growth, I don't even print up stake directories anymore.  If I had to do that to keep one current it would cost us about $500 a year in printing costs.  I do print up a few lists for stake leaders who are more comfortable that way.

Eric 

Clerk
Queen Creek Arizona Stake
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  To: ldsclerks at MormonsToday.com<mailto:ldsclerks at MormonsToday.com> 
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  Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2006 5:48 AM
  Subject: Re: LDSC: Re: Stake directories and Calendar Creator



  But how does your stake handle those that don't have web access or just 
  technologically challenged?

  Thanks

  Jeff Worthington
  Morton Ward
  Peoria IL Stake


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  From: "David Yearsley Juno" <dlyearsley at juno.com<mailto:dlyearsley at juno.com>>
  To: <ldsclerks at MormonsToday.com<mailto:ldsclerks at MormonsToday.com>>
  Cc: "David Yearsley Juno" <dlyearsley at juno.com<mailto:dlyearsley at juno.com>>
  Sent: Saturday, September 02, 2006 9:23 PM
  Subject: RE: LDSC: Re: Stake directories and Calendar Creator



  We will be starting our 3 year. We are also using the web for Resource
  scheduling like ball fields and other properties. One change we are
  implementing this year is that the building schedulers will be a stake
  calling from now on not a ward calling. It takes time and patience to make
  the switch, but in the end it is worth the effort.

  -----Original Message-----
  From: owner-ldsclerks at MormonsToday.com<mailto:owner-ldsclerks at MormonsTodaycom>
  [mailto:owner-ldsclerks at MormonsToday.com] On Behalf Of Adamson
  Sent: Saturday, September 02, 2006 6:32 PM
  To: ldsclerks at MormonsToday.com<mailto:ldsclerks at MormonsToday.com>
  Cc: Adamson
  Subject: LDSC: Re: Stake directories and Calendar Creator


  Our stake has moved entirely to using the Stake and Ward web sites for the
  calendar and directory (2007 will be the second year of using the web
  sites).

  Jim Adamson

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: "Rob" <sl1r3 at yahoo.com<mailto:sl1r3 at yahoo.com>>
  Subject: LDSC: Stake directories and Calendar Creator


  > Hi,
  >
  > I'm in charge of putting together our stake directory for 2007 and I was
  > looking for some tips, pointers, templates, etc. from any of you who have
  > done this recently or in years past.
  >




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From jeffp at jeffszone.com  Sun Sep  3 17:54:44 2006
From: jeffp at jeffszone.com (Jeff Phillips)
Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 18:54:44 -0400
Subject: LDSC: Re: Anti Virus Update on Local Meetinghouse Computers
In-Reply-To: <000801c6cf59$3c39ae90$6401a8c0@JWORTH>
Message-ID: <44FB5D34.3080601@jeffszone.com>


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jworth1 wrote:
>
>Has anyone tried accessing the CommandCom virus definitions to get the
>updated files as this email previously described? I get an error just trying
>to access the site even before entering the login and password.
>
>Thanks
>Jeff Worthington
>Morton Ward
>Peoria IL Stake
>
>

I was told we were suppose to be using Symantec for anti-virus beginning
in September. Call headquarters and they can mail you an install CD.

-Jeff



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From jobah at sbcglobal.net  Mon Sep  4 09:40:07 2006
From: jobah at sbcglobal.net (Joseph)
Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 10:40:07 -0400
Subject: LDSC: Configuring MLS: single computer, multiple wards
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Has anyone had to configure MLS on a single computer to support two
wards AFTER it was already configured to support ONE ward?  I have
been using MLS on our ward's computer since its release.  However, our
ward will be split next week, and the two wards will have to share the
computer until a new one (not to mention a new clerk's office) can be
acquired.  Does anyone on the list have experience reconfiguring MLS
for multiple wards?  If it would take more than an e-mail to respond
to this, please feel free to e-mail me off-list with your phone
number, and I'd be happy to give you a call whenever its convenient.

I'd like to accomplish this without having to blow away the current
ward's configuration.  Obviously, I could uninstall and reinstall
everything from the CD and just restore from a backup if I must, but I
thought I would ask the list first.

Thanks!

- Joseph Price
San Antonio, TX



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From alan at alanandkai.net  Mon Sep  4 16:19:47 2006
From: alan at alanandkai.net (Alan Morgan)
Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 17:19:47 -0400
Subject: LDSC: Stake directories and Calendar Creator
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Blair,

Ask and ye shall receive :-) Grab the latest incarnation at the same 
place, which is http://alanandkai.net/santan/sc.zip

My tests importing into Lotus Organizer work great (I don't have a 
Palm to test with) -- let me know how it goes.

Alan

At 12:16 PM 9/4/2006, you wrote:
>Alan,
>
>Your calendar program looks great!
>
>It would be nice if it could export a standard vCal file (*.vcs) for 
>import into more calendar programs like the one I use for the Palm 
>Desktop for sync'ing with my Palm PDA.
>
>--
>Blair Combs
>Pocatello, ID



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From webmaster at byondf1.com  Mon Sep  4 16:44:11 2006
From: webmaster at byondf1.com (Greg A. Anderson)
Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 17:44:11 -0400
Subject: LDSC: Stake directories and Calendar Creator
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When will the import function be working? Looks pretty interesting. 

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Blair,

Ask and ye shall receive :-) Grab the latest incarnation at the same 
place, which is http://alanandkai.net/santan/sc.zip

My tests importing into Lotus Organizer work great (I don't have a 
Palm to test with) -- let me know how it goes.

Alan

At 12:16 PM 9/4/2006, you wrote:
>Alan,
>
>Your calendar program looks great!
>
>It would be nice if it could export a standard vCal file (*.vcs) for 
>import into more calendar programs like the one I use for the Palm 
>Desktop for sync'ing with my Palm PDA.
>
>--
>Blair Combs
>Pocatello, ID



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From alan at alanandkai.net  Mon Sep  4 19:41:45 2006
From: alan at alanandkai.net (Alan Morgan)
Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 20:41:45 -0400
Subject: LDSC: Stake directories and Calendar Creator
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The Import function, I suppose, should be able to suck in the 
vCalendar format that I just implemented in the Export, as well the 
same the same Comma Separated Value format that it spits out.  I'll 
take a look at that in a bit.

At 02:44 PM 9/4/2006, you wrote:

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>When will the import function be working? Looks pretty interesting.
>
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>Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 2:20 PM
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>Blair,
>
>Ask and ye shall receive :-) Grab the latest incarnation at the same
>place, which is http://alanandkai.net/santan/sc.zip
>
>My tests importing into Lotus Organizer work great (I don't have a
>Palm to test with) -- let me know how it goes.
>
>Alan
>
>At 12:16 PM 9/4/2006, you wrote:
> >Alan,
> >
> >Your calendar program looks great!
> >
> >It would be nice if it could export a standard vCal file (*.vcs) for
> >import into more calendar programs like the one I use for the Palm
> >Desktop for sync'ing with my Palm PDA.
> >
> >--
> >Blair Combs
> >Pocatello, ID



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From webmaster at byondf1.com  Mon Sep  4 20:00:20 2006
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Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 21:00:20 -0400
Subject: LDSC: Stake directories and Calendar Creator
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It would be nice if it could import a Calendar Creator exported file. 

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The Import function, I suppose, should be able to suck in the 
vCalendar format that I just implemented in the Export, as well the 
same the same Comma Separated Value format that it spits out.  I'll 
take a look at that in a bit.

At 02:44 PM 9/4/2006, you wrote:

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>When will the import function be working? Looks pretty interesting.
>
>-----Original Message-----
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>Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 2:20 PM
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>Blair,
>
>Ask and ye shall receive :-) Grab the latest incarnation at the same
>place, which is http://alanandkai.net/santan/sc.zip
>
>My tests importing into Lotus Organizer work great (I don't have a
>Palm to test with) -- let me know how it goes.
>
>Alan
>
>At 12:16 PM 9/4/2006, you wrote:
> >Alan,
> >
> >Your calendar program looks great!
> >
> >It would be nice if it could export a standard vCal file (*.vcs) for
> >import into more calendar programs like the one I use for the Palm
> >Desktop for sync'ing with my Palm PDA.
> >
> >--
> >Blair Combs
> >Pocatello, ID



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From alan at alanandkai.net  Mon Sep  4 21:31:37 2006
From: alan at alanandkai.net (Alan Morgan)
Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 22:31:37 -0400
Subject: LDSC: Stake directories and Calendar Creator
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I would need a sample file to check out -- wanna send me one?  Send 
it in vCalendar format, too, if possible.

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>It would be nice if it could import a Calendar Creator exported file.
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>The Import function, I suppose, should be able to suck in the
>vCalendar format that I just implemented in the Export, as well the
>same the same Comma Separated Value format that it spits out.  I'll
>take a look at that in a bit.
>
>At 02:44 PM 9/4/2006, you wrote:
>
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> >When will the import function be working? Looks pretty interesting.
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> >Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 2:20 PM
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> >Cc: Blair Combs; Alan Morgan
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> >
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> >Blair,
> >
> >Ask and ye shall receive :-) Grab the latest incarnation at the same
> >place, which is http://alanandkai.net/santan/sc.zip
> >
> >My tests importing into Lotus Organizer work great (I don't have a
> >Palm to test with) -- let me know how it goes.
> >
> >Alan
> >
> >At 12:16 PM 9/4/2006, you wrote:
> > >Alan,
> > >
> > >Your calendar program looks great!
> > >
> > >It would be nice if it could export a standard vCal file (*.vcs) for
> > >import into more calendar programs like the one I use for the Palm
> > >Desktop for sync'ing with my Palm PDA.
> > >
> > >--
> > >Blair Combs
> > >Pocatello, ID



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From webmaster at byondf1.com  Mon Sep  4 21:53:07 2006
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Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 22:53:07 -0400
Subject: LDSC: Stake directories and Calendar Creator
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I will send him the CC file off list. Thanx 

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I would need a sample file to check out -- wanna send me one?  Send 
it in vCalendar format, too, if possible.

At 06:00 PM 9/4/2006, you wrote:

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>It would be nice if it could import a Calendar Creator exported file.
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>The Import function, I suppose, should be able to suck in the
>vCalendar format that I just implemented in the Export, as well the
>same the same Comma Separated Value format that it spits out.  I'll
>take a look at that in a bit.
>
>At 02:44 PM 9/4/2006, you wrote:
>
> > >From LDSClerks: Please see bottom of this message for subscription
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> >[mailto:owner-ldsclerks at MormonsToday.com] On Behalf Of Alan Morgan
> >Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 2:20 PM
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> >Cc: Blair Combs; Alan Morgan
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> >Blair,
> >
> >Ask and ye shall receive :-) Grab the latest incarnation at the same
> >place, which is http://alanandkai.net/santan/sc.zip
> >
> >My tests importing into Lotus Organizer work great (I don't have a
> >Palm to test with) -- let me know how it goes.
> >
> >Alan
> >
> >At 12:16 PM 9/4/2006, you wrote:
> > >Alan,
> > >
> > >Your calendar program looks great!
> > >
> > >It would be nice if it could export a standard vCal file (*.vcs) for
> > >import into more calendar programs like the one I use for the Palm
> > >Desktop for sync'ing with my Palm PDA.
> > >
> > >--
> > >Blair Combs
> > >Pocatello, ID



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From mwallred at yahoo.com  Tue Sep  5 07:00:33 2006
From: mwallred at yahoo.com (Marty Allred)
Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 08:00:33 -0400
Subject: LDSC: Exporting Ward Web Calendar
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All this talk of calendaring got me to trying out the calendar export
feature on the ward web site.

It doesn't work.

Let me clarify that. I tried to get the export in vCal format, since that's
what my PalmPilot wants, and the Palm churned on it for a minute or two and
then said it was a defective file. A couple of days later, I tried again
and this time the file size was a little different and it failed almost
immediately saying it was not a valid vCal file.

Has anyone had any luck getting this to work? Do I have to maybe load it
into Outlook and then export from there in the hopes that Microsoft got
their export right? Any suggestions?

Marty Allred
Columbia, SC



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From ALaurent at npr.org  Tue Sep  5 07:35:06 2006
From: ALaurent at npr.org (Arthur Laurent)
Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 08:35:06 -0400
Subject: LDSC: New members' baptism & confirmation info
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Our ward has a continuing supply of new converts.  I make sure the Temporary Membership form is complete before I tear off my part and send the rest off with the missionaries.  Yet, each time when the new membership record comes back from Salt Lake, it's missing the person(s) who baptised and confirmed the new converts.  And the records are usually delayed by a week or two (or three) before we see them.
 
Does anyone know the mission-specific version of MLS?  Is there some reason why the name of the persons who baptize and confirm converts are never (I've been in this calling for 5 years) typed in the spaces, even though they're present on the form?  How is the mission able to generate a new membership record without recording the names of priesthood holders who baptize and confirm, while the ward version of MLS requires a birthdate or an MRIN?
 
We received the records of a husband and wife have been members three weeks.  He's already received the Priesthood.  The missionary who baptized them has moved to another assignment, so I had to track him down to get the information.
 
Does anyone else have this problem?  What do you do about it?
 
Thanks for any help.
 
Arthur Laurent
Asst Ward Clerk



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From lds5806 at aol.com  Tue Sep  5 14:18:13 2006
From: lds5806 at aol.com (lds5806 at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 15:18:13 -0400
Subject: LDSC: Exec Secretary
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Someone did mention that our duty is to protect bishop and keep bishop out of trouble. Can you clearify that?  I just got called yesterday. Thanks
Live Long and Prosper!
Phoenix 43rd Deaf Branch
Timothy A. Lewis


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From cwha at ldskc.org  Tue Sep  5 15:11:16 2006
From: cwha at ldskc.org (Chuck Anderson)
Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 16:11:16 -0400
Subject: LDSC: Exec Secretary
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Simply read the Handbook, in the Section describing the duties of the
Ward Executive Secretary.

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>
> Someone did mention that our duty is to protect bishop and keep
> bishop out of trouble. Can you clearify that?  I just got called
> yesterday. Thanks
> Live Long and Prosper!
> Phoenix 43rd Deaf Branch
> Timothy A. Lewis
>



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From webmaster at byondf1.com  Tue Sep  5 15:24:36 2006
From: webmaster at byondf1.com (Greg A. Anderson)
Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 16:24:36 -0400
Subject: LDSC: Exec Secretary
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Basically to be there as a witness and protection against impropriety when
the Bishop is interviewing youth and women. So if allegations are made or
anything is said to have happened there is a witness. Basically the same
reason tithing counting and recording isn't a solo activity. 

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Someone did mention that our duty is to protect bishop and keep bishop out
of trouble. Can you clearify that?  I just got called yesterday. Thanks
Live Long and Prosper!
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Timothy A. Lewis


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From embunker817 at msn.com  Tue Sep  5 15:36:58 2006
From: embunker817 at msn.com (Eric Bunker)
Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 16:36:58 -0400
Subject: LDSC: Re: Exec Secretary
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That is one of the jobs.

It is to help prevent a church leader who is required to privately interview members from making a stupid decisions that would embarrass the church and himself or or on the other hand, to be a second witness to against those are prone to make false accusations.

Therefore a bishop, member of the bishopric, Stake President or member of the stake presidency should never interview anyone without the executive secretary, clerk or there wife if they are at home, being their outside the door.

Eric 

Clerk
Queen Creek Arizona Stake
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  Someone did mention that our duty is to protect bishop and keep bishop out of trouble. Can you clearify that?  I just got called yesterday. Thanks
  Live Long and Prosper!
  Phoenix 43rd Deaf Branch
  Timothy A. Lewis




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From mark_werner at byu.edu  Tue Sep  5 22:49:22 2006
From: mark_werner at byu.edu (Mark Werner)
Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 23:49:22 -0400
Subject: LDSC: Configuring MLS: single computer, multiple wards
In-Reply-To: <edhds7+pi1q@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <000701c6d167$704bf2a0$d102000a@MarkWD800>


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We had to do this last year; it's a piece of cake. In MLS go to System
Options -> Unit and at the bottom there's a link that says "Add Unit." You
just enter the new ward's unit number and you're on your way. On the login
screen you'll get a drop-down so you can choose which unit to log in to.
When the new ward's computer arrives, you take an MLS backup and restore it
to the new computer. On the first computer, you go into the same place in
MLS where you created the unit and delete it.

Mark Werner

> -----Original Message-----
> 
> Has anyone had to configure MLS on a single computer to support two
> wards AFTER it was already configured to support ONE ward?  I have
> been using MLS on our ward's computer since its release.  However, our
> ward will be split next week, and the two wards will have to share the
> computer until a new one (not to mention a new clerk's office) can be
> acquired.  Does anyone on the list have experience reconfiguring MLS
> for multiple wards?  If it would take more than an e-mail to respond
> to this, please feel free to e-mail me off-list with your phone
> number, and I'd be happy to give you a call whenever its convenient.
> 
> I'd like to accomplish this without having to blow away the current
> ward's configuration.  Obviously, I could uninstall and reinstall
> everything from the CD and just restore from a backup if I must, but I
> thought I would ask the list first.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> - Joseph Price
> San Antonio, TX


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From cwha at ldskc.org  Tue Sep  5 22:51:43 2006
From: cwha at ldskc.org (Chuck Anderson)
Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 23:51:43 -0400
Subject: LDSC: Configuring MLS: single computer, multiple wards
In-Reply-To: <edhds7+pi1q@eGroups.com>
References: <edhds7+pi1q@eGroups.com>
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It's really simple to "add a unit" to an existing Ward MLS system.
You do NOT need to reinstall or anything like that.

Bring up the Ward MLS.
Click on "System Options".
Click on "Unit" at the left.
Scroll down and you will see "Add Unit".
Click that and you will be prompted for the unit name, unit #, etc.
That will create a new unit without disturbing the original unit at
all.  Then when you bring up MLS in the future, you will see a new
field on the Sign In screen where you select the unit number for
whichever unit you wish to work with.

Also, click on "Help" at the right of the menu bar across the top of
the MLS screen will give you detail instructions -- just look up
Adding a Unit.

Chuck Anderson
cwha at ldskc.org



On Sep 4, 2006, at 9:40 AM, Joseph wrote:
>
>
> Has anyone had to configure MLS on a single computer to support two
> wards AFTER it was already configured to support ONE ward?  I have
> been using MLS on our ward's computer since its release.  However, our
> ward will be split next week, and the two wards will have to share the
> computer until a new one (not to mention a new clerk's office) can be
> acquired.  Does anyone on the list have experience reconfiguring MLS
> for multiple wards?  If it would take more than an e-mail to respond
> to this, please feel free to e-mail me off-list with your phone
> number, and I'd be happy to give you a call whenever its convenient.
>
> I'd like to accomplish this without having to blow away the current
> ward's configuration.  Obviously, I could uninstall and reinstall
> everything from the CD and just restore from a backup if I must, but I
> thought I would ask the list first.
>
> Thanks!
>
> - Joseph Price
> San Antonio, TX
>
>



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From lajackson at juno.com  Tue Sep  5 23:11:18 2006
From: lajackson at juno.com (Larry Jackson)
Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 00:11:18 -0400
Subject: LDSC: Re: Anti Virus Update on Local Meetinghouse Computers
Message-ID: <20060905.233233.3560.2.lajackson@juno.com>


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Jeff Phillips:

I was told we were suppose to be using Symantec 
for anti-virus beginning in September. Call headquarters 
and they can mail you an install CD.

_______________

Are they going to tell any of the rest of us?  [grin]

Seriously, is there any type of official source for this?
Or was it a help desk comment about the future?

We have received nothing on it, and we still update 
with authenticum regularly.

Larry Jackson



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From lajackson at juno.com  Tue Sep  5 23:23:44 2006
From: lajackson at juno.com (Larry Jackson)
Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 00:23:44 -0400
Subject: LDSC: Re: Stake directories and Calendar Creator
Message-ID: <20060905.233233.3560.4.lajackson@juno.com>


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Eric Bunker:

It has been interesting to see the resistance in the general 
membership having a web based calendar/announcements.

_______________

I believe that more members have access (or could) than 
we think, but I also know that around here, at least, there 
are still many members who do not have ready access.

I am one of them, and I am the stake website administrator.

For urgent needs, I have 10 hours of dialup available a month.  
Usually, I update the site from work during lunch or after hours.

I would love to be able to plunk down the money for an internet 
connection at home, because dialup doesn't hack it.  But, 
neither does my budget.

Larry Jackson



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From mark_werner at byu.edu  Tue Sep  5 23:24:42 2006
From: mark_werner at byu.edu (Mark Werner)
Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 00:24:42 -0400
Subject: LDSC: Stake directories and Calendar Creator
In-Reply-To: <20060902040024.85558.qmail@web36104.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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I didn't address this part of the question previously. All the major Church
events are already posted through December 2007 on the stake/ward Web
calendar (I've harassed them about this in the past and they're doing a lot
better!). But the dates actually are not that mysterious. In fact, in the
past I've posted general Church events on our stake Web calendar a couple of
years in advance and just deleted them when the "real" events showed up.

- General conferences are on the weekends that include the first Sunday of
April and October.
- The general YW meeting is the Saturday before April general conference.
- The general RS meeting is the Saturday before October general conference.
- The First Presidency Christmas Devotional is the first Sunday in December.
- CES firesides are generally the first Sunday in February, March, May,
September, and November. However, the September fireside is often on the
second Sunday; it appears to depend on whether BYU is in session, since most
of the firesides originate from there (you could figure out from BYU's Web
site when they start classes).
- Even temple closure dates are fairly consistent over the years, in my
experience--the second and third weeks of July, for example.

There will always be a few events that come out of the blue, but that should
account for most of them.

Mark Werner

> -----Original Message-----
> 
> Finally, I noticed that there's not too much on the 2007 months for the
> Church calendar at lds.org -- seems a bit barren. How do you typically
> find out what church-wide events are schedule for 2007. Do you typically
> schedule stake/ward events first and then go back and re-schedule them if
> they conflict with  church-wide events?


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From lajackson at juno.com  Tue Sep  5 23:32:28 2006
From: lajackson at juno.com (Larry Jackson)
Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 00:32:28 -0400
Subject: LDSC: New policy for new computers
Message-ID: <20060905.233233.3560.6.lajackson@juno.com>


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I sent him one.  He probably has a dozen by now.  [grin]

Larry Jackson

_______________

"bthomasj1971" <bthomasj1971 at yahoo.com> writes:
> 
> it references a similar letter
> specific to Clerks Offices dated in March 2005.



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From webmaster at byondf1.com  Tue Sep  5 23:50:56 2006
From: webmaster at byondf1.com (Greg A. Anderson)
Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 00:50:56 -0400
Subject: LDSC: Re: Stake directories and Calendar Creator
In-Reply-To: <20060905.233233.3560.4.lajackson@juno.com>
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I also think the problem is the speed. I have a 6 MB DSL connection and the
speed of posting items to the churches web site is incredibly slow and
people just don't look there. It is much faster to call someone or look at a
printed or written calendar or directory. Whether I print it or the member
goes there once and prints it and then puts it in a binder they are just not
using our site. I stopped posting anything to ours over a year ago just to
see what would happen. I got my first call on it yesterday. No one is using
it. It is sad but we were getting a lot more usage when we had created our
own and it was much faster and easier to use. The cookie cutter/no frills
sites the church created are not very user/speed friendly. 

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Eric Bunker:

It has been interesting to see the resistance in the general 
membership having a web based calendar/announcements.

_______________

I believe that more members have access (or could) than 
we think, but I also know that around here, at least, there 
are still many members who do not have ready access.

I am one of them, and I am the stake website administrator.

For urgent needs, I have 10 hours of dialup available a month.  
Usually, I update the site from work during lunch or after hours.

I would love to be able to plunk down the money for an internet 
connection at home, because dialup doesn't hack it.  But, 
neither does my budget.

Larry Jackson



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From russellhltn at gmail.com  Wed Sep  6 00:34:16 2006
From: russellhltn at gmail.com (Russell Hltn)
Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 01:34:16 -0400
Subject: LDSC: Stake directories and Calendar Creator
In-Reply-To: <000801c6d16c$606d5950$d102000a@MarkWD800>
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>>> All the major Church events are already posted through December
2007 on the stake/ward Web calendar <<<

Well, it wasn't there a week or two ago as we were having a discussion
about what dates GC fell on in another list.

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From mwallred at yahoo.com  Wed Sep  6 06:48:46 2006
From: mwallred at yahoo.com (Marty Allred)
Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 07:48:46 -0400
Subject: LDSC: Exporting from ward web site calendar
Message-ID: <20060906114846.23844.qmail@web35414.mail.mud.yahoo.com>


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I've tried exporting the calendar from the ward web site and then importing
it into Outlook. Works just fine. Well, personally, I wish it would make
recurring events into actual recurring events instead of a whole series of
individual events, but I'll take what I can get.

However, when I try to import the vCal file into my PalmPilot, it churns on
the file for a while and then gives me this error message:

"An error occurred while importing the vCal file. The file may not be a
valid vCal file."

Unfortunately, the PalmPilot only accepts vCal and dba (Date Book Archive)
files for importing and Outlook won't export into either of those formats
or I would just make it a two step process of loading into Outlook and then
exporting/importing to the Palm.

Has anyone gotten the ward calendar from the web site onto their PalmPilot?
What did you have to do to make it work?

Thanks,

Marty Allred
Columbia, SC




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From jerryrose at cox.net  Wed Sep  6 07:26:45 2006
From: jerryrose at cox.net (Jerry Rose)
Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 08:26:45 -0400
Subject: LDSC: New CHI
Message-ID: <000401c6d1af$b7daa740$0302a8c0@DAD>


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Our stake president has received a letter dated August 17 from the First
Presidency on his Church e-mail that essentially says a new CHI Book 1 is in
the mail.  It states Book 2 "is being revised, and a new edition will be
issued later."  Included are a long list of Church correspondance that is to
be destroyed as the contents are now included in the new Book 1.  
 
JLR
 
___________________________
Jerry Rose
Omaha Nebraska Papillion Stake Clerk


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From bthomasj1971 at yahoo.com  Wed Sep  6 08:32:06 2006
From: bthomasj1971 at yahoo.com (bthomasj1971)
Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 09:32:06 -0400
Subject: LDSC: New policy for new computers
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Thanks to all who have sent me a copy of the letter!

BTW, sorry about the second message I sent to the list on this
topic.  It took a couple days for the first one to show up, and I
thought maybe it had gotten lost...


~BT


--- In ldsclerks at yahoogroups.com, "bthomasj1971" <bthomasj1971 at ...> wrote:
>
>
> A while back I posted to the list about getting a new printer for
> one of my wards.
>
> I have addressed the issue with my local FM group, and as expected,
> they were unaware that they are supposed to provide hardware now.
>
> Does any one have a .PDF of the letter that was issued stating the
> change in policy?  I have found in my archive a letter stating new
> policy in Family History Centers, and it references a similar letter
> specific to Clerks Offices dated in March 2005.
>
> I cannot find the letter for the clerks offices.  I need it to send
> to my local FM group so they will be more willing to help me get a
> replacement printer.  I just had my second Laserjet 1100 fail in two
> months, and I have a feeling the others will soon follow.
>
> If anyone can find this please send me a copy, and it may also be a
> good candidate to post in the "Files" section on the Yahoo group
> page relating to this list.
>
> Thanks!
>
> ~BT
>
>


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From cwha at ldskc.org  Wed Sep  6 09:57:31 2006
From: cwha at ldskc.org (Chuck Anderson)
Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 10:57:31 -0400
Subject: LDSC: Exporting from ward web site calendar
In-Reply-To: <20060906114846.23844.qmail@web35414.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <20060906114846.23844.qmail@web35414.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <608918E3-37A6-4A18-952A-8C94995E4DC8@ldskc.org>


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I cheated to get it into my PalmPilot....
First, I printed the monthly calendar pages to monthly PDF files.
You can get Free PDF writer software - Google "Free PDF".
Then, using "Documents to Go" third party software for synchronizing
Word & PDF documents with the Palm Pilot, I put the PDF calendar
pages on my Palm Pilot and can read the actual graphic PDF calendar
page on my Palm Pilot - one can scroll sideways and up/down with the
Documents to Go application on the Palm.

Unfortunately, you cannot get the export of the monthly calendar onto
a PalmPilot at all.  There is a technical problem they have not
overcome.

Chuck Anderson
cwha at ldskc.org



On Sep 6, 2006, at 6:48 AM, Marty Allred wrote:
>
>
> I've tried exporting the calendar from the ward web site and then
> importing
> it into Outlook. Works just fine. Well, personally, I wish it would
> make
> recurring events into actual recurring events instead of a whole
> series of
> individual events, but I'll take what I can get.
>
> However, when I try to import the vCal file into my PalmPilot, it
> churns on
> the file for a while and then gives me this error message:
>
> "An error occurred while importing the vCal file. The file may not
> be a
> valid vCal file."
>
> Unfortunately, the PalmPilot only accepts vCal and dba (Date Book
> Archive)
> files for importing and Outlook won't export into either of those
> formats
> or I would just make it a two step process of loading into Outlook
> and then
> exporting/importing to the Palm.
>
> Has anyone gotten the ward calendar from the web site onto their
> PalmPilot?
> What did you have to do to make it work?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Marty Allred
> Columbia, SC
>




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From bcooper at novell.com  Wed Sep  6 10:59:11 2006
From: bcooper at novell.com (Brian Cooper)
Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 11:59:11 -0400
Subject: LDSC: Configuring MLS: single computer, multiple wards
In-Reply-To: <000701c6d167$704bf2a0$d102000a@MarkWD800>
References: <edhds7+pi1q@eGroups.com>
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Adding a ward to a computer really is easy - the only thing I'd add is
that when you move the 'guest' ward off your computer to their own new
computer, you will need to let Salt Lake City know.  The steps to move a
ward are as follows:
 
1.  Install MLS on the new computer.
2.  Back up the ward's files from the old computer to a floppy or a USB
flash drive.
3.  On the new computer, run MLS and restore the files from the
backup.
4.  Restart MLS.
5.  Do a Send/Receive from the new computer - you will get a 'security
violation'.  Don't panic, this is normal!
6.  Call Salt Lake City, tell them you have moved a ward from one
computer to another and give them the unit number of the ward that has
moved.  They will reset a flag on their end and you are set. 
7.  In earlier versions of MLS, you didn't need to create users when
you moved a ward, but I think that has changed, so you may need to do
that on the new machine.
8.  Delete the ward from the old computer.
 
Brian Cooper

>>> "Mark Werner" <mark_werner at byu.edu> 9/5/2006 9:49 PM >>>

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We had to do this last year; it's a piece of cake. In MLS go to System
Options -> Unit and at the bottom there's a link that says "Add Unit."
You
just enter the new ward's unit number and you're on your way. On the
login
screen you'll get a drop-down so you can choose which unit to log in
to.
When the new ward's computer arrives, you take an MLS backup and
restore it
to the new computer. On the first computer, you go into the same place
in
MLS where you created the unit and delete it.

Mark Werner

> -----Original Message-----
> 
> Has anyone had to configure MLS on a single computer to support two
> wards AFTER it was already configured to support ONE ward?  I have
> been using MLS on our ward's computer since its release.  However,
our
> ward will be split next week, and the two wards will have to share
the
> computer until a new one (not to mention a new clerk's office) can
be
> acquired.  Does anyone on the list have experience reconfiguring MLS
> for multiple wards?  If it would take more than an e-mail to respond
> to this, please feel free to e-mail me off-list with your phone
> number, and I'd be happy to give you a call whenever its convenient.
> 
> I'd like to accomplish this without having to blow away the current
> ward's configuration.  Obviously, I could uninstall and reinstall
> everything from the CD and just restore from a backup if I must, but
I
> thought I would ask the list first.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> - Joseph Price
> San Antonio, TX


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From bcooper at novell.com  Wed Sep  6 11:09:05 2006
From: bcooper at novell.com (Brian Cooper)
Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 12:09:05 -0400
Subject: LDSC: Re: Stake directories and Calendar Creator
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Interesting thing about the speed is how much of a difference it makes,
which day you access the Church's web sites.
On Sunday - from morning to evening - the site really crawls.  Oddly
enough, Sunday seems to be when most clerks (and members) decide they
need to get their church work done.  ;-)   I went onto the ward web site
last night (Tuesday) and breezed through the calendar pages in a very
speedy fashion.   The difference isn't the speed of your Internet
connection, it's the number of other users that are all trying to get in
at the same time.
Maybe the Church could publish a chart/graph showing the number of
people accessing the site and when it is busiest - then we could plan
around it.  I have seen such charts in the locker room at the temple -
nice to know the times to avoid the rush.

Brian Cooper

>>> "Greg A. Anderson" <webmaster at byondf1.com> 9/5/2006 10:50 PM >>>

I also think the problem is the speed. I have a 6 MB DSL connection and
the
speed of posting items to the churches web site is incredibly slow and
people just don't look there. It is much faster to call someone or look
at a
printed or written calendar or directory. Whether I print it or the
member
goes there once and prints it and then puts it in a binder they are
just not
using our site. I stopped posting anything to ours over a year ago just
to
see what would happen. I got my first call on it yesterday. No one is
using
it. It is sad but we were getting a lot more usage when we had created
our
own and it was much faster and easier to use. The cookie cutter/no
frills
sites the church created are not very user/speed friendly.

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To: ldsclerks at MormonsToday.com
Cc: Larry Jackson
Subject: LDSC: Re: Stake directories and Calendar Creator


Eric Bunker:

It has been interesting to see the resistance in the general
membership having a web based calendar/announcements.

_______________

I believe that more members have access (or could) than
we think, but I also know that around here, at least, there
are still many members who do not have ready access.

I am one of them, and I am the stake website administrator.

For urgent needs, I have 10 hours of dialup available a month.
Usually, I update the site from work during lunch or after hours.

I would love to be able to plunk down the money for an internet
connection at home, because dialup doesn't hack it.  But,
neither does my budget.

Larry Jackson



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From mwallred at yahoo.com  Wed Sep  6 12:26:46 2006
From: mwallred at yahoo.com (Marty Allred)
Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 13:26:46 -0400
Subject: LDSC: Exporting from ward web site calendar
In-Reply-To: <20060906114846.23844.qmail@web35414.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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> I've tried exporting the calendar from the ward web site and then
> importing it into Outlook. Works just fine. Well, personally, I
> wish it would make recurring events into actual recurring events
> instead of a whole series of individual events, but I'll take
> what I can get.
> ...
> Unfortunately, the PalmPilot only accepts vCal and dba (Date
> Book Archive) files for importing and Outlook won't export
> into either of those formats or I would just make it a two
> step process of loading into Outlook and then
> exporting/importing to the Palm.
> 
> Has anyone gotten the ward calendar from the web site onto
> their PalmPilot? What did you have to do to make it work?

Further experimentation:

I imported the data into Google Calendar. Then I discovered that it
won't output in either dba or vcs formats.

Tried to import into Yahoo Calendar. Had to alter the csv file so that
it used the same headings that Yahoo uses when it exports and quote
all the fields and change the date format to MM/DD/YYYY and split the
times out of the date/time field (which also meant creating an end
date) and add in a "false" or "true" to the "All day event" field and
replacing the event id field with the description as the
subject/title, but it finally read it in.

Whew. Now, I can supposedly use Yahoo Calendar to synchronize with my
PalmPilot using Intellisync, which you can download from Yahoo for
free. I'm not sure how I would handle the ward/stake/churchwide events
other than to split them up into individual files and then import them
into different calendars so that they can be exported then imported
into their own categories on the Palm. Probably will just manually
edit the categories afterwards since there aren't all that many.

So, it *can* be done. It ain't easy or pretty. It sure would be nice
if the export from the ward web site would spit out a file that the
Palm could read. If the PalmPilot would even export to a vCal file I
could at least look at it and see what it thinks one should look like
so that I can tweak the exported file.

If you try to do all this using standard Windows tools, I feel for
you. Unix has such nice text manipulation utilities.

Marty Allred
Columbia, SC






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From mwallred at yahoo.com  Wed Sep  6 13:27:17 2006
From: mwallred at yahoo.com (Marty Allred)
Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 14:27:17 -0400
Subject: LDSC: Exporting from ward web site calendar -- EUREKA!!
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I managed to do an export of a single event on the PalmPilot into a
vCal format file and did some looking at that and the vCal specs.

Okay, long story short....

The first thing you have to do is to put a blank line between the last
"END:VEVENT" line and the last line in the file, which is a
"END:VCALENDAR".

Then get rid of all the events that have long and/or complicated
descriptions, such as embedded web links, which means pretty much all
the churchwide events. I'm still working on why these fail.

Save the file and you should be able to import using it.

Note that even though I created "Ward Event" and "Stake Event"
categories on the Palm before importing, all the events get imported
into the "unfiled" category.

With just a little twiddling, you can also remove all but one of the
recurring events and add in a few lines to define the recurrance
pattern and it will make then nice recurring events instead of a whole
batch of single events.

Hope this helps someone else out there.

Marty Allred
Columbia, SC





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From jguest at brazoriainet.com  Wed Sep  6 14:26:18 2006
From: jguest at brazoriainet.com (Jim Guest)
Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 15:26:18 -0400
Subject: LDSC: Re: Re: Anti Virus Update on Local Meetinghouse Computers
References: <20060905.233233.3560.2.lajackson@juno.com>
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Personally, I wish they would work out a deal with the folks who put out 
the AVG antivirus. I use the free version on my personal computer and am 
tickled with it. It caught another virus last week and lock it up in the 
"vault" and notified me. I have since deleted it.

Jim Guest
======================
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To: <ldsclerks at MormonsToday.com>
Cc: "Larry Jackson" <lajackson at juno.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 11:11 PM
Subject: LDSC: Re: Anti Virus Update on Local Meetinghouse Computers


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> Jeff Phillips:
>
> I was told we were suppose to be using Symantec
> for anti-virus beginning in September. Call headquarters
> and they can mail you an install CD.
>
> _______________
>
> Are they going to tell any of the rest of us?  [grin]
>
> Seriously, is there any type of official source for this?
> Or was it a help desk comment about the future?
>
> We have received nothing on it, and we still update
> with authenticum regularly.
>
> Larry Jackson
>
>
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From jguest at brazoriainet.com  Wed Sep  6 14:39:42 2006
From: jguest at brazoriainet.com (Jim Guest)
Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 15:39:42 -0400
Subject: LDSC: Re: Re: Stake directories and Calendar Creator
References: <20060905.233233.3560.4.lajackson@juno.com>
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Larry,

I was both stake and ward administrator for two years before I could get 
DSL at home  because I live in a small town whose telephone company is 
privately (family) owned and has been since 1945. It was them or 
nothing.

Finally, they started offering DSL and I was one of the first to sign 
up. Now with the church websites, it's a whole new world, although I do 
miss the naps between the screen changes.

I was lucky enough to have a FHC in the ward and I was also a volunteer 
who worked at the FHC. This was in a different town about eight miles 
from where I lived and they had DSL.

If I had much very many changes to make on the stake of ward sites, I 
would just go into the FHC in the off hours and get my work done there. 
Do you have a FHC handy to you that is connected to DSL? If so, check 
with your stake pres and see if he will OK it for you to use the 
computers for the web sites in the off hours.

Jim Guest




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From: "Larry Jackson" <lajackson at juno.com>
To: <ldsclerks at MormonsToday.com>
 >
> I believe that more members have access (or could) than
> we think, but I also know that around here, at least, there
> are still many members who do not have ready access.
>
> I am one of them, and I am the stake website administrator.
>
> For urgent needs, I have 10 hours of dialup available a month.
> Usually, I update the site from work during lunch or after hours.
>
> I would love to be able to plunk down the money for an internet
> connection at home, because dialup doesn't hack it.  But,
> neither does my budget.
>
> Larry Jackson
 


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From m_macconnell at msn.com  Wed Sep  6 14:57:18 2006
From: m_macconnell at msn.com (Mark MacConnell)
Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 15:57:18 -0400
Subject: LDSC: New CHI
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We just got that distrubted to our Wards as well. We have not seen the new ones yet so I assume they are giving us a heads up so we can make sure to get the old ones ready to be distroyed as the letter states.Mark MacConnelle-mail: m_macconnell at msn.comalt e-mail: m_macconnell at yahoo.com

> From: jerryrose at cox.net> To: ldsclerks at MormonsToday.com> Subject: LDSC: New CHI> Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 07:26:45 -0500> CC: jerryrose at cox.net> > > > > > Our stake president has received a letter dated August 17 from the First> Presidency on his Church e-mail that essentially says a new CHI Book 1 is in> the mail.  It states Book 2 "is being revised, and a new edition will be> issued later."  Included are a long list of Church correspondance that is to> be destroyed as the contents are now included in the new Book 1.  >  > JLR>  > ___________________________> Jerry Rose> Omaha Nebraska Papillion Stake Clerk> > > > 


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From sl1r3 at yahoo.com  Wed Sep  6 15:24:09 2006
From: sl1r3 at yahoo.com (Rob)
Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 16:24:09 -0400
Subject: LDSC: Stake directories and Calendar Creator
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Thanks for sharing what you are doing in your wards and stakes. I see some real advantages (and cost savings) to moving to the online ward and stake website calendars. The hard part is making the change for those that are used to the paper copies. 

The other thing that has been nice about hard copy directories is that we often exchange a copy with our neighboring stakes -- so the stake clerks office always has a copy of leadership information for the other stakes in the area. This is more difficult with the stake and ward websites, but has anyone worked out agreements for a stake clerk to be added as out of unit members from neighboring stakes? I know that the main leadership information can be accessed via the COL CD-ROM or online database -- but it doesn't have the detail that comes with a printed stake directory.

I had heard from SLC earlier in the year that they didn't have any funding for updates or bug fixes to the ward and stake websites -- but I know they're revamping the entire lds.org site so I wonder if they're be some changes/enhancements to the stake and ward websites too.

Thanks!

Rob

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Subject: LDSC: Stake directories and Calendar Creator


> Hi,
>
> I'm in charge of putting together our stake directory for 2007 and I was 
> looking for some tips, pointers, templates, etc. from any of you who have 
> done this recently or in years past.
>




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From sl1r3 at yahoo.com  Wed Sep  6 15:42:14 2006
From: sl1r3 at yahoo.com (Rob)
Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 16:42:14 -0400
Subject: LDSC: Training members on stake and ward websites
Message-ID: <20060906204214.57226.qmail@web36104.mail.mud.yahoo.com>


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Hi all,

I know this is a mailing list for clerk related issues, but I also know that many of us also have duties associated with the ward and stake websites ... I'm also the website admin for our stake. So hopefully this topic is ok for this list (I know there is/was another list for ward and stake website stuff, but it isn't very active).

I work with computers for a living and so I have seen the range of people who have no clue about computers or the internet to those who can figure it all out for themselves. 

Do any of you hold regular or scheduled training sessions where members and leaders can come and get some help with gaining access to and understanding more about the stake and ward websites? I've considered doing this since I get a lot of basic questions from members and leaders as well as huge surprises when they realize how helpful these sites can be.

Has your stake or ward leaders asked you to take some time in a leadership training session talking about the ward and stake websites?

How do you deal with the "Send email feature" associated with new calendar events? I find that whenever I approve a stake event that sends email to the membership that I end up with hundreds of bounced messages in my inbox. I even get responses back from people asking to be removed from my email list since they are no longer in a particular organization (i.e. YW) -- I have to explain to them that they have control over this themselves. 

I started contacting members about their bad email addresses -- most of the time though I get the equivelent of a blank stare because they have forgotten all about their ward website and don't recall that they even registered. Recently I've started delegating to the ward website admins by sending them a list of members with bounced emails and asking them to contact the members to update their email addresses. That only goes so far depending on how dedicated the ward website admins are.

Anyway, I was just curious what other wards or stakes were doing with respect to training their members and leaders about using the ward and stake websites.

Thanks.

Rob



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From Steve.Neeland at ingrambook.com  Wed Sep  6 16:19:43 2006
From: Steve.Neeland at ingrambook.com (Neeland, Steve)
Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 17:19:43 -0400
Subject: LDSC: Training members on stake and ward websites
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Our stake has not discussed the ward/stake website during our training,
but it would be a great idea to.  Enough member issues come across this
list that someone could build a quick presentation with some bullet
points of interest that could be discussed at the next stake leadership
meeting.  Our previous ward website admin made up a one page sheet
showing members how to register on the site and what benefits it would
give them.  That was about two years ago, so it's probably due for a
re-vamping.  Now that I do the Ward Clerk and website admin tasks I'll
bring it up in bishopric meeting to see if we can have a demo and Q&A
session.  Of course one difficulty would be that we currently do not
have internet access, but I have some other options.

Steve

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Hi all,

I know this is a mailing list for clerk related issues, but I also know
that many of us also have duties associated with the ward and stake
websites ... I'm also the website admin for our stake. So hopefully this
topic is ok for this list (I know there is/was another list for ward and
stake website stuff, but it isn't very active).

I work with computers for a living and so I have seen the range of
people who have no clue about computers or the internet to those who can
figure it all out for themselves. 

Do any of you hold regular or scheduled training sessions where members
and leaders can come and get some help with gaining access to and
understanding more about the stake and ward websites? I've considered
doing this since I get a lot of basic questions from members and leaders
as well as huge surprises when they realize how helpful these sites can
be.

Has your stake or ward leaders asked you to take some time in a
leadership training session talking about the ward and stake websites?

How do you deal with the "Send email feature" associated with new
calendar events? I find that whenever I approve a stake event that sends
email to the membership that I end up with hundreds of bounced messages
in my inbox. I even get responses back from people asking to be removed
from my email list since they are no longer in a particular organization
(i.e. YW) -- I have to explain to them that they have control over this
themselves. 

I started contacting members about their bad email addresses -- most of
the time though I get the equivelent of a blank stare because they have
forgotten all about their ward website and don't recall that they even
registered. Recently I've started delegating to the ward website admins
by sending them a list of members with bounced emails and asking them to
contact the members to update their email addresses. That only goes so
far depending on how dedicated the ward website admins are.

Anyway, I was just curious what other wards or stakes were doing with
respect to training their members and leaders about using the ward and
stake websites.

Thanks.

Rob



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From mark_werner at byu.edu  Wed Sep  6 16:30:33 2006
From: mark_werner at byu.edu (Mark Werner)
Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 17:30:33 -0400
Subject: LDSC: Configuring MLS: single computer, multiple wards
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Thanks for adding that information. I had forgotten that we had difficulty
establishing the connection with the new computer and the new ward had to
use the other ward's computer longer than planned. That part didn't quite
follow the script.

Mark Werner

> -----Original Message-----
> 
> Adding a ward to a computer really is easy - the only thing I'd add is
> that when you move the 'guest' ward off your computer to their own new
> computer, you will need to let Salt Lake City know.


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From russellhltn at gmail.com  Wed Sep  6 17:10:34 2006
From: russellhltn at gmail.com (Russell Hltn)
Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 18:10:34 -0400
Subject: LDSC: Training members on stake and ward websites
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>>>  I approve a stake event that sends email to the membership that I
end up with hundreds of bounced messages in my inbox. <<<

That's been a real problem.   So far all we can do is cope, there is
no good solution.


>>> I even get responses back from people asking to be removed from my
email list since they are no longer in a particular organization (i.e.
YW) -- I have to explain to them that they have control over this
themselves. <<<

I include in the bottom of the message something like "you are
receiving this email because you've signed up to receive YM emails on
your ward website, or you are a YM leader."  (because I've also
flagged it for certain leadership positions like Bishopric.)  "If you
no longer wish to receive these emails, please log into
http://www.lds.org/units and change your preferences.  The system
admin can not do it for you."

I just winged that off the top of my head, but you get the idea.

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From russellhltn at gmail.com  Wed Sep  6 17:13:53 2006
From: russellhltn at gmail.com (Russell Hltn)
Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 18:13:53 -0400
Subject: LDSC: Re: Re: Stake directories and Calendar Creator
In-Reply-To: <004101c6d1ec$3316b110$6400a8c0@JIMSCOMPUTER>
References: <20060905.233233.3560.4.lajackson@juno.com>
	 <004101c6d1ec$3316b110$6400a8c0@JIMSCOMPUTER>
Message-ID: <a0a0e1510609061513u5be9c380j59662137c245e93@m