From russellhltn at gmail.com Wed Aug 1 18:33:59 2007 From: russellhltn at gmail.com (Russell Hltn) Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2007 19:33:59 -0400 Subject: LDSC: MLS version 2.6 is now ready for installation Message-ID: >From LDSClerks: Please see bottom of this message for subscription instructions and list URL. Just got a direct email from the church asking that MLS 2.6 and "Record-keeping Training" be downloaded and installed on all machines. They ask that it be completed by Aug 31. MLS can be downloaded from the usual place using the usual procedure. >From ldsclerks: Please do not send copyrighted material to ldsclerks. See list info at: http://www.MormonsToday.com/ldsclerks/index.html Send commands in the body of a message to majordomo at MormonsToday.com To join: subscribe ldsclerks To leave: unsubscribe ldsclerks To join digest: subscribe ldsclerks-digest From drepouille at hotmail.com Wed Aug 1 19:15:24 2007 From: drepouille at hotmail.com (Dana Repouille) Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2007 20:15:24 -0400 Subject: LDSC: Optiplex 740 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <002701c7d49a$38c8e310$4801a8c0@3nnwq61> >From LDSClerks: Please see bottom of this message for subscription instructions and list URL. Interesting. We just received a Dell Optiplex 740 for a new YSA branch. It has the factory image on it. I went to the mls.lds.org web site and read the unique installation instructions. If you really really want to install the Desktop 5.5 image onto a 740, you must use a USB (external) CD or DVD drive. I assume that is because, if you try to boot from the internal DVD drive, the image discs just won't work. I assume again that this failure is due to the fact that this drive is SATA, and the image discs don't have a driver for an SATA DVD drive. I could be wrong. Anyway, if you boot from the first image disc using an external drive, the image does work, sort of. Again, the image is not fully compatible with the Optiplex 740, and the image does not include all the required drivers, so you must download all the drivers beforehand from the mls.lds.org site, and install them after the image has been restored. Funny thing is, they give you the option of NOT using the Desktop 5.5 image on an Optiplex 740. You must still manually install the security software they provide, along with all the other software they want us to use. I guess it doesn't make much of a difference. However, I usually don't like all the "trial" software that OEMs preload onto these new systems, so I think I would rather wipe the drive and use the Desktop 5.5 image. At least that way, I would absolutely know that this system is identical to the other 12 admin computers in my stake. Now I understand why some of you complained when you couldn't get the Desktop 5.5 image to work with your new Optiplex 740 computers. Hey, that's the life of a beta-tester. What? You didn't ASK to be a beta tester? Dana >From ldsclerks: Please do not send copyrighted material to ldsclerks. See list info at: http://www.MormonsToday.com/ldsclerks/index.html Send commands in the body of a message to majordomo at MormonsToday.com To join: subscribe ldsclerks To leave: unsubscribe ldsclerks To join digest: subscribe ldsclerks-digest From kent.s.larsen at gmail.com Wed Aug 1 19:34:44 2007 From: kent.s.larsen at gmail.com (Kent S. Larsen II) Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2007 20:34:44 -0400 Subject: LDSC: Monthly Reminder of LDSClerks List Policies and Instructions Message-ID: >From LDSClerks: Please see bottom of this message for subscription instructions and list URL. 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You may switch back and forth between these lists whenever you like. You can also join both the digest and normal list if you like. The two act like separate lists, except when you post - all posts go to ldsclerks, and they are then fed to ldsclerks-digest. The digest list includes the full text of all posts to ldsclerks. As a reminder, the basic subscribe and unsubscribe command instructions are summarized at the end of every post. >From ldsclerks: Please do not send copyrighted material to ldsclerks. See list info at: http://www.MormonsToday.com/ldsclerks/index.html Send commands in the body of a message to majordomo at MormonsToday.com To join: subscribe ldsclerks To leave: unsubscribe ldsclerks To join digest: subscribe ldsclerks-digest From russellhltn at gmail.com Wed Aug 1 20:02:17 2007 From: russellhltn at gmail.com (Russell Hltn) Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2007 21:02:17 -0400 Subject: LDSC: Optiplex 740 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: >From LDSClerks: Please see bottom of this message for subscription instructions and list URL. > I usually don't like > all the "trial" software that OEMs preload onto these new systems, http://www.pcdecrapifier.com will take care of that problem. But I do understand about you wanting to keep all the PCs the same. >From ldsclerks: Please do not send copyrighted material to ldsclerks. See list info at: http://www.MormonsToday.com/ldsclerks/index.html Send commands in the body of a message to majordomo at MormonsToday.com To join: subscribe ldsclerks To leave: unsubscribe ldsclerks To join digest: subscribe ldsclerks-digest From lajacksn at gmail.com Wed Aug 1 23:00:21 2007 From: lajacksn at gmail.com (Larry Jackson) Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2007 00:00:21 -0400 Subject: LDSC: ccApp Message-ID: <46B156D5.2070006@gmail.com> >From LDSClerks: Please see bottom of this message for subscription instructions and list URL. I cannot get the stake computer to shut down anymore because of ccApp. I have tried following the instructions at the Norton site to disable checking of the floppy drive during shutdown, but the ccApp.exe program insists on keeping the computer from shutting down properly. In one area I could not check the box. In another area, I could check the box, but it does not seem to have any effect. Is it possible that this is a security setting that SL will have to change for me? Any hints? Thanks. Larry Jackson >From ldsclerks: Please do not send copyrighted material to ldsclerks. See list info at: http://www.MormonsToday.com/ldsclerks/index.html Send commands in the body of a message to majordomo at MormonsToday.com To join: subscribe ldsclerks To leave: unsubscribe ldsclerks To join digest: subscribe ldsclerks-digest From lajacksn at gmail.com Wed Aug 1 23:43:11 2007 From: lajacksn at gmail.com (Larry Jackson) Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2007 00:43:11 -0400 Subject: LDSC: MLS 2.6 Message-ID: <46B160DF.4030005@gmail.com> >From LDSClerks: Please see bottom of this message for subscription instructions and list URL. MLS 2.6 has some nice features. Check out the new confidential forms section. You can also restore a login that was previously removed. And you don't have to remember the password to use the installer. Nice work. Larry Jackson >From ldsclerks: Please do not send copyrighted material to ldsclerks. See list info at: http://www.MormonsToday.com/ldsclerks/index.html Send commands in the body of a message to majordomo at MormonsToday.com To join: subscribe ldsclerks To leave: unsubscribe ldsclerks To join digest: subscribe ldsclerks-digest From Steve.Neeland at ingrambook.com Thu Aug 2 10:31:20 2007 From: Steve.Neeland at ingrambook.com (Neeland, Steve) Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2007 11:31:20 -0400 Subject: LDSC: MLS 2.6 In-Reply-To: <46B160DF.4030005@gmail.com> Message-ID: <61F9465B7871FA4AAF36C89DCC2064B925904088@IBC2K3EXCH.ingrambook.com> >From LDSClerks: Please see bottom of this message for subscription instructions and list URL. So is MLS 2.6 the version our Stake's will be implementing to the units within some scheduled date range like was done when the Desktop 5.5 was pushed out? Steve -----Original Message----- From: owner-ldsclerks at MormonsToday.com [mailto:owner-ldsclerks at MormonsToday.com] On Behalf Of Larry Jackson Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2007 11:43 PM To: ldsclerks at MormonsToday.com Cc: Larry Jackson Subject: LDSC: MLS 2.6 >From LDSClerks: Please see bottom of this message for subscription instructions and list URL. MLS 2.6 has some nice features. Check out the new confidential forms section. You can also restore a login that was previously removed. And you don't have to remember the password to use the installer. Nice work. Larry Jackson >From ldsclerks: Please do not send copyrighted material to ldsclerks. See list info at: http://www.MormonsToday.com/ldsclerks/index.html Send commands in the body of a message to majordomo at MormonsToday.com To join: subscribe ldsclerks To leave: unsubscribe ldsclerks To join digest: subscribe ldsclerks-digest >From ldsclerks: Please do not send copyrighted material to ldsclerks. See list info at: http://www.MormonsToday.com/ldsclerks/index.html Send commands in the body of a message to majordomo at MormonsToday.com To join: subscribe ldsclerks To leave: unsubscribe ldsclerks To join digest: subscribe ldsclerks-digest From russellhltn at gmail.com Thu Aug 2 14:06:06 2007 From: russellhltn at gmail.com (Russell Hltn) Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2007 15:06:06 -0400 Subject: LDSC: ccApp In-Reply-To: <46B156D5.2070006@gmail.com> References: <46B156D5.2070006@gmail.com> Message-ID: >From LDSClerks: Please see bottom of this message for subscription instructions and list URL. I've seen it slow to shut down so it triggers a message, but I've not seen it stop the shutdown. >From ldsclerks: Please do not send copyrighted material to ldsclerks. See list info at: http://www.MormonsToday.com/ldsclerks/index.html Send commands in the body of a message to majordomo at MormonsToday.com To join: subscribe ldsclerks To leave: unsubscribe ldsclerks To join digest: subscribe ldsclerks-digest From allen.dreher at gmail.com Thu Aug 2 14:24:29 2007 From: allen.dreher at gmail.com (allen dreher) Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2007 15:24:29 -0400 Subject: LDSC: MLS 2.6 Message-ID: <4d7709f30708021224l17c9ab9dn5dd73f0961b3ad9d@mail.gmail.com> >From LDSClerks: Please see bottom of this message for subscription instructions and list URL. I installed 2.6 this morning. It's sweet. There's a new section that allows for admistrative forms to be completed on the computer as opposed to filling out the paper form. It also corrected some of the Visiting Teaching and Home Teaching statistical errors. There are some changes that refer specifically to financial and membership. I also like the training icon that allows for the needed training on the unit computer as opposed to having to go to the lds.org website. I'll have to see what all it contains. I'm looking forward to using this version. I do know that we are connecting at 40.0 kbps as opposed to our external modem that connected at 14.4 kbps. Allen Dreher Ward Clerk On 8/2/07, Neeland, Steve wrote: > > > So is MLS 2.6 the version our Stake's will be implementing to the units > within some scheduled date range like was done when the Desktop 5.5 was > pushed out? > > Steve > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-ldsclerks at MormonsToday.com > [mailto:owner-ldsclerks at MormonsToday.com] On Behalf Of Larry Jackson > Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2007 11:43 PM > To: ldsclerks at MormonsToday.com > Cc: Larry Jackson > Subject: LDSC: MLS 2.6 > > > MLS 2.6 has some nice features. Check out the new confidential forms > section. You can also restore a login that was previously removed. > > And you don't have to remember the password to use the installer. > > Nice work. > > Larry Jackson > > -- Allen Dreher "At some deep level, consciously or unconsciously, you have to want to be joyful." - Thomas Kinkade >From ldsclerks: Please do not send copyrighted material to ldsclerks. See list info at: http://www.MormonsToday.com/ldsclerks/index.html Send commands in the body of a message to majordomo at MormonsToday.com To join: subscribe ldsclerks To leave: unsubscribe ldsclerks To join digest: subscribe ldsclerks-digest From allen.dreher at gmail.com Thu Aug 2 14:26:38 2007 From: allen.dreher at gmail.com (allen dreher) Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2007 15:26:38 -0400 Subject: LDSC: MLS 2.6 In-Reply-To: <4d7709f30708021224l17c9ab9dn5dd73f0961b3ad9d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4d7709f30708021226vefa8648s8fa9ce4ccd86e591@mail.gmail.com> >From LDSClerks: Please see bottom of this message for subscription instructions and list URL. I've got a quick question, we received a new computer today. Our old one was Windows 2000 Professional. I installed MLS 2.4.3 and then 2.6. Do I still need to install the 5.5 version or does the 2.6 cover all of that? Allen Dreher Ward Clerk On 8/2/07, allen dreher wrote: > > I installed 2.6 this morning. It's sweet. There's a new section that > allows for admistrative forms to be completed on the computer as opposed to > filling out the paper form. It also corrected some of the Visiting Teaching > and Home Teaching statistical errors. There are some changes that refer > specifically to financial and membership. I also like the training icon that > allows for the needed training on the unit computer as opposed to having to > go to the lds.org website. I'll have to see what all it contains. I'm > looking forward to using this version. I do know that we are connecting at > 40.0 kbps as opposed to our external modem that connected at 14.4 kbps. > > Allen Dreher > Ward Clerk > > On 8/2/07, Neeland, Steve wrote: > > > > > > So is MLS 2.6 the version our Stake's will be implementing to the units > > within some scheduled date range like was done when the Desktop 5.5 was > > pushed out? > > > > Steve > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-ldsclerks at MormonsToday.com > > [mailto:owner-ldsclerks at MormonsToday.com] On Behalf Of Larry Jackson > > Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2007 11:43 PM > > To: ldsclerks at MormonsToday.com > > Cc: Larry Jackson > > Subject: LDSC: MLS 2.6 > > > > > > MLS 2.6 has some nice features. Check out the new confidential forms > > section. You can also restore a login that was previously removed. > > > > And you don't have to remember the password to use the installer. > > > > Nice work. > > > > Larry Jackson > > > > > -- > Allen Dreher > > "At some deep level, consciously or unconsciously, you have to want to be > joyful." > - Thomas Kinkade >From ldsclerks: Please do not send copyrighted material to ldsclerks. See list info at: http://www.MormonsToday.com/ldsclerks/index.html Send commands in the body of a message to majordomo at MormonsToday.com To join: subscribe ldsclerks To leave: unsubscribe ldsclerks To join digest: subscribe ldsclerks-digest From lajacksn at gmail.com Thu Aug 2 18:02:39 2007 From: lajacksn at gmail.com (Larry Jackson) Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2007 19:02:39 -0400 Subject: LDSC: Re: MLS 2.6 In-Reply-To: <61F9465B7871FA4AAF36C89DCC2064B925904088@IBC2K3EXCH.ingrambook.com> References: <61F9465B7871FA4AAF36C89DCC2064B925904088@IBC2K3EXCH.ingrambook.com> Message-ID: <46B2628F.4070400@gmail.com> >From LDSClerks: Please see bottom of this message for subscription instructions and list URL. Steve Neeland: So is MLS 2.6 the version our Stake's will be implementing to the units within some scheduled date range like was done when the Desktop 5.5 was pushed out? _______________ We were asked to install it by August 31st. Larry Jackson >From ldsclerks: Please do not send copyrighted material to ldsclerks. See list info at: http://www.MormonsToday.com/ldsclerks/index.html Send commands in the body of a message to majordomo at MormonsToday.com To join: subscribe ldsclerks To leave: unsubscribe ldsclerks To join digest: subscribe ldsclerks-digest From lajacksn at gmail.com Thu Aug 2 18:07:16 2007 From: lajacksn at gmail.com (Larry Jackson) Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2007 19:07:16 -0400 Subject: LDSC: Re: ccApp In-Reply-To: References: <46B156D5.2070006@gmail.com> Message-ID: <46B263A4.8040603@gmail.com> >From LDSClerks: Please see bottom of this message for subscription instructions and list URL. Russell Houlton: I've seen it slow to shut down so it triggers a message, but I've not seen it stop the shutdown. _______________ I think five minutes is long enough. This is after MLS is totally shut down and only the desktop is showing, the hard drive is not chirping, and all seems to be calm. From that point, if it takes more than five minutes to shut down, someone should have to share the pain. [grin] Larry Jackson >From ldsclerks: Please do not send copyrighted material to ldsclerks. See list info at: http://www.MormonsToday.com/ldsclerks/index.html Send commands in the body of a message to majordomo at MormonsToday.com To join: subscribe ldsclerks To leave: unsubscribe ldsclerks To join digest: subscribe ldsclerks-digest From allen.dreher at gmail.com Thu Aug 2 18:26:54 2007 From: allen.dreher at gmail.com (allen dreher) Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2007 19:26:54 -0400 Subject: LDSC: Re: MLS 2.6 In-Reply-To: <46B2628F.4070400@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4d7709f30708021626l36d54aedw94b253e6099f3452@mail.gmail.com> >From LDSClerks: Please see bottom of this message for subscription instructions and list URL. It's supposed to be installed by 31 August 2007. If a computer is a Dell 740 Optiplex, then the disks that came for the re- imaging version 5.5 will not work. This is the linkto obtain the needed information and instructions as to how to download and install version 5.5. Allen On 8/2/07, Larry Jackson wrote: > > > Steve Neeland: > > So is MLS 2.6 the version our Stake's will be implementing to the units > within some scheduled date range like was done when the Desktop 5.5 was > pushed out? > > _______________ > > We were asked to install it by August 31st. > > Larry Jackson > -- Allen Dreher "At some deep level, consciously or unconsciously, you have to want to be joyful." - Thomas Kinkade >From ldsclerks: Please do not send copyrighted material to ldsclerks. See list info at: http://www.MormonsToday.com/ldsclerks/index.html Send commands in the body of a message to majordomo at MormonsToday.com To join: subscribe ldsclerks To leave: unsubscribe ldsclerks To join digest: subscribe ldsclerks-digest From russellhltn at gmail.com Thu Aug 2 18:50:54 2007 From: russellhltn at gmail.com (Russell Hltn) Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2007 19:50:54 -0400 Subject: LDSC: Re: ccApp In-Reply-To: <46B263A4.8040603@gmail.com> References: <46B156D5.2070006@gmail.com> <46B263A4.8040603@gmail.com> Message-ID: >From LDSClerks: Please see bottom of this message for subscription instructions and list URL. No argument there. Since I use SAV Corporate edition at work, I'm talking more about what I see is "normal" behavior for it. On 8/2/07, Larry Jackson wrote: > > From that point, if it takes more than five minutes to shut down, > someone should have to share the pain. [grin] > >From ldsclerks: Please do not send copyrighted material to ldsclerks. See list info at: http://www.MormonsToday.com/ldsclerks/index.html Send commands in the body of a message to majordomo at MormonsToday.com To join: subscribe ldsclerks To leave: unsubscribe ldsclerks To join digest: subscribe ldsclerks-digest From tlwalker at nethere.com Fri Aug 3 09:57:29 2007 From: tlwalker at nethere.com (Tom Walker) Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2007 10:57:29 -0400 Subject: LDSC: Optiplex 740 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <46B34259.6080608@nethere.com> >From LDSClerks: Please see bottom of this message for subscription instructions and list URL. The best thing to do is to "Clean" up the machine getting rid of all the useless fluff and then make your Own Restore Disk. There are several Free Image programs and several somewhat reasonable retail ones also. Russell Hltn wrote: > >From LDSClerks: Please see bottom of this message for subscription instructions and list URL. > > >> I usually don't like >> all the "trial" software that OEMs preload onto these new systems, >> > > http://www.pcdecrapifier.com will take care of that problem. But I do > understand about you wanting to keep all the PCs the same. > > >From ldsclerks: Please do not send copyrighted material to ldsclerks. > See list info at: http://www.MormonsToday.com/ldsclerks/index.html > > Send commands in the body of a message to majordomo at MormonsToday.com > To join: subscribe ldsclerks > To leave: unsubscribe ldsclerks > To join digest: subscribe ldsclerks-digest > > > > > >From ldsclerks: Please do not send copyrighted material to ldsclerks. See list info at: http://www.MormonsToday.com/ldsclerks/index.html Send commands in the body of a message to majordomo at MormonsToday.com To join: subscribe ldsclerks To leave: unsubscribe ldsclerks To join digest: subscribe ldsclerks-digest From fobeirne at sbcglobal.net Fri Aug 3 13:51:02 2007 From: fobeirne at sbcglobal.net (Frank OBeirne) Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2007 14:51:02 -0400 Subject: LDSC: MLS 2.6 Message-ID: >From LDSClerks: Please see bottom of this message for subscription instructions and list URL. --- In ldsclerks at yahoogroups.com, "Neeland, Steve" wrote: > > So is MLS 2.6 the version our Stake's will be implementing to the units > within some scheduled date range like was done when the Desktop 5.5 was > pushed out? > > Steve > Hello Steve and all, This is my first post to this site even though I read it daily. I am a Ward Clerk, an Assistant Stake Clerk/Stake Technology Specialist(STS). I did not receive a mailing that was sent from SLC to all Stake Presidents, Stake Clerks, and STS. That mailing contained a letter of plans and instructions as well as a CD with the new MLS 2.6. To answer your question, talk to your Stake Clerk or your Stake President. The mailing list was made up from the Stake Executive Roster. Since I was not listed as the STS, I did not receive the mail-out from SLC. As the Stake Web Site Administrator (WSA), I have now corrected that omission. Frank O. I >From ldsclerks: Please do not send copyrighted material to ldsclerks. See list info at: http://www.MormonsToday.com/ldsclerks/index.html Send commands in the body of a message to majordomo at MormonsToday.com To join: subscribe ldsclerks To leave: unsubscribe ldsclerks To join digest: subscribe ldsclerks-digest From ldsskier at rusticate.net Sat Aug 4 19:24:35 2007 From: ldsskier at rusticate.net (Skier) Date: Sat, 04 Aug 2007 20:24:35 -0400 Subject: LDSC: MLS 2.6 In-Reply-To: <46B160DF.4030005@gmail.com> References: <46B160DF.4030005@gmail.com> Message-ID: <46B518C3.4060809@rusticate.net> >From LDSClerks: Please see bottom of this message for subscription instructions and list URL. How easy is it to install? If I burn a copy for every ward will the local clerk have any difficulty running the upgrade or is it touchy enough that I should drive out to every unit and do it myself? Asst Stake Clerk - technology >From ldsclerks: Please do not send copyrighted material to ldsclerks. See list info at: http://www.MormonsToday.com/ldsclerks/index.html Send commands in the body of a message to majordomo at MormonsToday.com To join: subscribe ldsclerks To leave: unsubscribe ldsclerks To join digest: subscribe ldsclerks-digest From lajacksn at gmail.com Sat Aug 4 19:54:54 2007 From: lajacksn at gmail.com (Larry Jackson) Date: Sat, 04 Aug 2007 20:54:54 -0400 Subject: LDSC: Re: MLS 2.6 In-Reply-To: <46B518C3.4060809@rusticate.net> References: <46B160DF.4030005@gmail.com> <46B518C3.4060809@rusticate.net> Message-ID: <46B51FDE.1040300@gmail.com> >From LDSClerks: Please see bottom of this message for subscription instructions and list URL. Skier: How easy is it to install? _______________ I have done one installation. It was easier than last time. I may do two more tomorrow. Larry Jackson >From ldsclerks: Please do not send copyrighted material to ldsclerks. See list info at: http://www.MormonsToday.com/ldsclerks/index.html Send commands in the body of a message to majordomo at MormonsToday.com To join: subscribe ldsclerks To leave: unsubscribe ldsclerks To join digest: subscribe ldsclerks-digest From allen.dreher at gmail.com Sat Aug 4 20:47:44 2007 From: allen.dreher at gmail.com (allen dreher) Date: Sat, 04 Aug 2007 21:47:44 -0400 Subject: LDSC: MLS 2.6 In-Reply-To: <46B518C3.4060809@rusticate.net> Message-ID: <4d7709f30708041847s487795f1ia5aebb0aaaf0f2bd@mail.gmail.com> >From LDSClerks: Please see bottom of this message for subscription instructions and list URL. In my opinion, the instructions seem a bit detailed. If the clerk doesn't have much "computer" background, it might be a bit tricky. There are a full set of instructions at mls.lds.org with the list of things that need to be downloaded, e.g., Adobe, Open Office, The Scriptures, etc. These all can be put on the unit's computer. I don't know which would be better, having you install the re-imaging or the unit clerk. Since I used to the MLS Assistant Stake Clerk I have an idea of what to do since I had done some of the 5.5re-imaging. I guess you'd just have to feel it out. Allen Dreher Ward Clerk On 8/4/07, Skier wrote: > > > How easy is it to install? If I burn a copy for every ward will the > local clerk have any difficulty running the upgrade or is it touchy > enough that I should drive out to every unit and do it myself? > > Asst Stake Clerk - technology > > -- Allen Dreher "At some deep level, consciously or unconsciously, you have to want to be joyful." - Thomas Kinkade >From ldsclerks: Please do not send copyrighted material to ldsclerks. See list info at: http://www.MormonsToday.com/ldsclerks/index.html Send commands in the body of a message to majordomo at MormonsToday.com To join: subscribe ldsclerks To leave: unsubscribe ldsclerks To join digest: subscribe ldsclerks-digest From reggie at internet49.com Sat Aug 4 21:07:02 2007 From: reggie at internet49.com (Reggie) Date: Sat, 04 Aug 2007 22:07:02 -0400 Subject: LDSC: MLS 2.6 References: <46B160DF.4030005@gmail.com> <46B518C3.4060809@rusticate.net> Message-ID: <001a01c7d705$50a41f50$6500a8c0@REGGIE> >From LDSClerks: Please see bottom of this message for subscription instructions and list URL. If it got anny easyer they would not need us. Reggie How easy is it to install? If I burn a copy for every ward will the local clerk have any difficulty running the upgrade or is it touchy enough that I should drive out to every unit and do it myself? Asst Stake Clerk - technology >From ldsclerks: Please do not send copyrighted material to ldsclerks. See list info at: http://www.MormonsToday.com/ldsclerks/index.html Send commands in the body of a message to majordomo at MormonsToday.com To join: subscribe ldsclerks To leave: unsubscribe ldsclerks To join digest: subscribe ldsclerks-digest From lajacksn at gmail.com Sat Aug 4 22:05:34 2007 From: lajacksn at gmail.com (Larry Jackson) Date: Sat, 04 Aug 2007 23:05:34 -0400 Subject: LDSC: Re: MLS 2.6 In-Reply-To: <001a01c7d705$50a41f50$6500a8c0@REGGIE> References: <46B160DF.4030005@gmail.com> <46B518C3.4060809@rusticate.net> <001a01c7d705$50a41f50$6500a8c0@REGGIE> Message-ID: <46B53E7E.2040306@gmail.com> >From LDSClerks: Please see bottom of this message for subscription instructions and list URL. Reggie wrote: If it got any easier they would not need us. _______________ Of my 15 computers, all identical in every way, 3 or 4 will have hiccups with which I will have to deal. That's why they still need us. I am, however, looking forward to the day when I can just tell the help desk to login and fix it themselves. Larry Jackson >From ldsclerks: Please do not send copyrighted material to ldsclerks. See list info at: http://www.MormonsToday.com/ldsclerks/index.html Send commands in the body of a message to majordomo at MormonsToday.com To join: subscribe ldsclerks To leave: unsubscribe ldsclerks To join digest: subscribe ldsclerks-digest From avskip at gmail.com Sat Aug 4 23:32:33 2007 From: avskip at gmail.com (Skip Taylor) Date: Sun, 05 Aug 2007 00:32:33 -0400 Subject: LDSC: MLS 2.6 In-Reply-To: <46B160DF.4030005@gmail.com> Message-ID: >From LDSClerks: Please see bottom of this message for subscription instructions and list URL. I was unable to get MLS 2.6 to install on a Dell Optiplex GX270 today. It kept saying it could not install "there" and no matter where I told it to move to, it would fail to install. Anyone have that happen yet? This was downloaded the day of the announcement. Maybe a bad download? Skip Taylor On 8/1/07, Larry Jackson wrote: > > > MLS 2.6 has some nice features. Check out the new confidential forms > section. You can also restore a login that was previously removed. > > And you don't have to remember the password to use the installer. > > Nice work. > > Larry Jackson > > >From ldsclerks: Please do not send copyrighted material to ldsclerks. See list info at: http://www.MormonsToday.com/ldsclerks/index.html Send commands in the body of a message to majordomo at MormonsToday.com To join: subscribe ldsclerks To leave: unsubscribe ldsclerks To join digest: subscribe ldsclerks-digest From russellhltn at gmail.com Sun Aug 5 00:30:29 2007 From: russellhltn at gmail.com (Russell Hltn) Date: Sun, 05 Aug 2007 01:30:29 -0400 Subject: LDSC: MLS 2.6 In-Reply-To: <46B518C3.4060809@rusticate.net> References: <46B160DF.4030005@gmail.com> <46B518C3.4060809@rusticate.net> Message-ID: >From LDSClerks: Please see bottom of this message for subscription instructions and list URL. I've only done the stake so far. Double click on the install file, select the language, let it rip. I don't remember any other prompts. On 8/4/07, Skier wrote: > > How easy is it to install? If I burn a copy for every ward will the > local clerk have any difficulty running the upgrade or is it touchy > enough that I should drive out to every unit and do it myself? > > Asst Stake Clerk - technology >From ldsclerks: Please do not send copyrighted material to ldsclerks. See list info at: http://www.MormonsToday.com/ldsclerks/index.html Send commands in the body of a message to majordomo at MormonsToday.com To join: subscribe ldsclerks To leave: unsubscribe ldsclerks To join digest: subscribe ldsclerks-digest From simonsen at charter.net Sun Aug 5 22:21:37 2007 From: simonsen at charter.net (simonsen) Date: Sun, 05 Aug 2007 23:21:37 -0400 Subject: LDSC: MLS 2.6 Message-ID: <46B693C1.7040705@charter.net> >From LDSClerks: Please see bottom of this message for subscription instructions and list URL. I tried to install the upgrade. Disaster. The installation finished and said there were errors in the installation. Stating "For more information see the installation log." I have searched, looked, and tried every means I can think of and do not find any more information or a log referencing the installation of 2.6. I found a full log of the installation of 2.4. Just a waste of space. I tried to run MLS anyway only to get a Java Virtual Machine Launcher Error. "Could not create Java virtual machine" So much for 2.6. Does anyone know where the installation log is? Does anyone know how to fix the virtual machine error? Added comment. Why do they send me, the stake clerk , and the ward clerks notice that it is available and say that the stake clerk or stake clerk/tech specialist is to install? Why cant the unit install and if they have problems contact the stake? Thanks, Richard Simonsen Santa Maria California Stake >From ldsclerks: Please do not send copyrighted material to ldsclerks. See list info at: http://www.MormonsToday.com/ldsclerks/index.html Send commands in the body of a message to majordomo at MormonsToday.com To join: subscribe ldsclerks To leave: unsubscribe ldsclerks To join digest: subscribe ldsclerks-digest From lajacksn at gmail.com Sun Aug 5 22:34:51 2007 From: lajacksn at gmail.com (Larry Jackson) Date: Sun, 05 Aug 2007 23:34:51 -0400 Subject: LDSC: Re: MLS 2.6 In-Reply-To: <46B693C1.7040705@charter.net> References: <46B693C1.7040705@charter.net> Message-ID: <46B696DB.1020400@gmail.com> >From LDSClerks: Please see bottom of this message for subscription instructions and list URL. Richard Simonsen: "For more information see the installation log." Why can't the unit install and if they have problems contact the stake? _______________ You can do it that way if you wish. They will still call you. The installation log is written at Program Files / LDS Church / MLS_InstallLog.log Larry Jackson >From ldsclerks: Please do not send copyrighted material to ldsclerks. See list info at: http://www.MormonsToday.com/ldsclerks/index.html Send commands in the body of a message to majordomo at MormonsToday.com To join: subscribe ldsclerks To leave: unsubscribe ldsclerks To join digest: subscribe ldsclerks-digest From russellhltn at gmail.com Mon Aug 6 04:27:14 2007 From: russellhltn at gmail.com (Russell Hltn) Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2007 05:27:14 -0400 Subject: LDSC: MLS 2.6 In-Reply-To: <46B693C1.7040705@charter.net> References: <46B693C1.7040705@charter.net> Message-ID: >From LDSClerks: Please see bottom of this message for subscription instructions and list URL. On 8/5/07, simonsen wrote: > Added comment. Why do they send me, the stake clerk , and the ward > clerks notice that it is available and say that the stake clerk or stake > clerk/tech specialist is > to install? Why cant the unit install and if they have problems contact > the stake? > Think of it as line of authority. The church is giving up a heads up. But it's the STS's job to see that it gets done. Since the STS is doing this, hopefully he learns the way to do it to insure success. >From ldsclerks: Please do not send copyrighted material to ldsclerks. See list info at: http://www.MormonsToday.com/ldsclerks/index.html Send commands in the body of a message to majordomo at MormonsToday.com To join: subscribe ldsclerks To leave: unsubscribe ldsclerks To join digest: subscribe ldsclerks-digest From erik at chinesetools.com Mon Aug 6 12:12:42 2007 From: erik at chinesetools.com (Erik Peterson) Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2007 13:12:42 -0400 Subject: LDSC: Churches and electronic donations Message-ID: >From LDSClerks: Please see bottom of this message for subscription instructions and list URL. After the recent discussion on alternative methods of paying tithing, I thought list members might be interested in this article on how other churches are dealing with the rise in electronic payments: http://www.time.com/time/business/article/0,8599,1648022,00.html I don't think we'll be seeing ATMs in the foyer anytime soon and wards already supply paper documentation of donations needed by the IRS, but I do agree with the final paragraph: > Yet MondayMorningInsights.com Editor Todd Rhoades precits that electronic giving will > inevitably grow. "I often hear people say that the only check they still write each month is to > the church," he says. "It seems that everything else has gone electronic; the church will follow." Erik Peterson >From ldsclerks: Please do not send copyrighted material to ldsclerks. See list info at: http://www.MormonsToday.com/ldsclerks/index.html Send commands in the body of a message to majordomo at MormonsToday.com To join: subscribe ldsclerks To leave: unsubscribe ldsclerks To join digest: subscribe ldsclerks-digest From Waltonwalton2619c at comcast.net Mon Aug 6 12:48:51 2007 From: Waltonwalton2619c at comcast.net (Tom) Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2007 13:48:51 -0400 Subject: LDSC: Re: Re: MLS 2.6 In-Reply-To: <46B51FDE.1040300@gmail.com> References: <46B160DF.4030005@gmail.com> <46B518C3.4060809@rusticate.net> <46B51FDE.1040300@gmail.com> Message-ID: <24D03AB3BA9F41BE8D4E20DA089251FC@thomasi8xblgbf> >From LDSClerks: Please see bottom of this message for subscription instructions and list URL. Made a backup of unit file (copied to C: directory) and ran the file. It loaded without any problem. Checked for data. It loads right over the top of the old version. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Jackson" To: Cc: "Larry Jackson" Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2007 8:54 PM Subject: LDSC: Re: MLS 2.6 > >>From LDSClerks: Please see bottom of this message for subscription >>instructions and list URL. > > Skier: > > How easy is it to install? > > _______________ > > I have done one installation. It was easier than last time. I may do two > more tomorrow. > > Larry Jackson > > > >>From ldsclerks: Please do not send copyrighted material to ldsclerks. > See list info at: http://www.MormonsToday.com/ldsclerks/index.html > > Send commands in the body of a message to majordomo at MormonsToday.com > To join: subscribe ldsclerks > To leave: unsubscribe ldsclerks > To join digest: subscribe ldsclerks-digest > > > _______________________________________ > No viruses found in incoming message > Scanned by iolo AntiVirus? 1.1.10.7 > http://www.iolo.com > _______________________________________ No viruses found in outgoing message Scanned by iolo AntiVirus? 1.1.10.7 http://www.iolo.com >From ldsclerks: Please do not send copyrighted material to ldsclerks. See list info at: http://www.MormonsToday.com/ldsclerks/index.html Send commands in the body of a message to majordomo at MormonsToday.com To join: subscribe ldsclerks To leave: unsubscribe ldsclerks To join digest: subscribe ldsclerks-digest From reggie at internet49.com Mon Aug 6 13:43:45 2007 From: reggie at internet49.com (Reggie) Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2007 14:43:45 -0400 Subject: LDSC: MLS 2.6 References: <46B160DF.4030005@gmail.com> <46B518C3.4060809@rusticate.net> <46B51FDE.1040300@gmail.com> <24D03AB3BA9F41BE8D4E20DA089251FC@thomasi8xblgbf> Message-ID: <000601c7d859$b8e060b0$6500a8c0@REGGIE> >From LDSClerks: Please see bottom of this message for subscription instructions and list URL. I just finished installing MLS 2.6 on 9 computers with out a glitch it took about 7 minuets pre computer. Reggie El Dorado Stake Ca Computer Specialist ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Walton" To: Cc: "Tom Walton" Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 10:48 AM Subject: LDSC: Re: Re: MLS 2.6 > >>From LDSClerks: Please see bottom of this message for subscription >>instructions and list URL. > > Made a backup of unit file (copied to C: directory) and ran > the file. It loaded without any problem. Checked for data. > It loads right over the top of the old version. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Larry Jackson" > To: > Cc: "Larry Jackson" > Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2007 8:54 PM > Subject: LDSC: Re: MLS 2.6 > > >> >>>From LDSClerks: Please see bottom of this message for subscription >>>instructions and list URL. >> >> Skier: >> >> How easy is it to install? >> >> _______________ >> >> I have done one installation. It was easier than last time. I may do >> two more tomorrow. >> >> Larry Jackson >> >> >> >>>From ldsclerks: Please do not send copyrighted material to ldsclerks. >> See list info at: http://www.MormonsToday.com/ldsclerks/index.html >> >> Send commands in the body of a message to majordomo at MormonsToday.com >> To join: subscribe ldsclerks >> To leave: unsubscribe ldsclerks >> To join digest: subscribe ldsclerks-digest >> >> >> _______________________________________ >> No viruses found in incoming message >> Scanned by iolo AntiVirus? 1.1.10.7 >> http://www.iolo.com >> > > > _______________________________________ > No viruses found in outgoing message > Scanned by iolo AntiVirus? 1.1.10.7 > http://www.iolo.com > > >>From ldsclerks: Please do not send copyrighted material to ldsclerks. > See list info at: http://www.MormonsToday.com/ldsclerks/index.html > > Send commands in the body of a message to majordomo at MormonsToday.com > To join: subscribe ldsclerks > To leave: unsubscribe ldsclerks > To join digest: subscribe ldsclerks-digest > > >From ldsclerks: Please do not send copyrighted material to ldsclerks. See list info at: http://www.MormonsToday.com/ldsclerks/index.html Send commands in the body of a message to majordomo at MormonsToday.com To join: subscribe ldsclerks To leave: unsubscribe ldsclerks To join digest: subscribe ldsclerks-digest From russellhltn at gmail.com Mon Aug 6 14:00:04 2007 From: russellhltn at gmail.com (RussellHltn) Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2007 15:00:04 -0400 Subject: LDSC: Re: Re: MLS 2.6 In-Reply-To: <24D03AB3BA9F41BE8D4E20DA089251FC@thomasi8xblgbf> References: <46B160DF.4030005@gmail.com> <46B518C3.4060809@rusticate.net> <46B51FDE.1040300@gmail.com> <24D03AB3BA9F41BE8D4E20DA089251FC@thomasi8xblgbf> Message-ID: <005a01c7d85c$00526860$6401a8c0@cciclass4> >From LDSClerks: Please see bottom of this message for subscription instructions and list URL. I've read an another board that MLS has to do two send/receives about an hour apart before it's completely normal after the upgrade. The first send/receive sends a "refresh" request. The second one is to receive it. This came up in response to a question as to why the new convert report was not working after the upgrade. >From ldsclerks: Please do not send copyrighted material to ldsclerks. See list info at: http://www.MormonsToday.com/ldsclerks/index.html Send commands in the body of a message to majordomo at MormonsToday.com To join: subscribe ldsclerks To leave: unsubscribe ldsclerks To join digest: subscribe ldsclerks-digest From ldsskier at rusticate.net Mon Aug 6 15:27:03 2007 From: ldsskier at rusticate.net (Skier) Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2007 16:27:03 -0400 Subject: LDSC: MLS 2.6 In-Reply-To: <000601c7d859$b8e060b0$6500a8c0@REGGIE> References: <46B160DF.4030005@gmail.com> <46B518C3.4060809@rusticate.net> <46B51FDE.1040300@gmail.com> <24D03AB3BA9F41BE8D4E20DA089251FC@thomasi8xblgbf> <000601c7d859$b8e060b0$6500a8c0@REGGIE> Message-ID: <46B78417.4000807@rusticate.net> >From LDSClerks: Please see bottom of this message for subscription instructions and list URL. Reggie wrote: > >> From LDSClerks: Please see bottom of this message for subscription >> instructions and list URL. > > I just finished installing MLS 2.6 on 9 computers with out a glitch it > took about 7 minuets pre computer. About 15 minutes per for me, this includes updating the antivirus definition files (might as well...) and the 200+ Mb of record keeping training. >From ldsclerks: Please do not send copyrighted material to ldsclerks. See list info at: http://www.MormonsToday.com/ldsclerks/index.html Send commands in the body of a message to majordomo at MormonsToday.com To join: subscribe ldsclerks To leave: unsubscribe ldsclerks To join digest: subscribe ldsclerks-digest From ldsskier at rusticate.net Mon Aug 6 15:28:57 2007 From: ldsskier at rusticate.net (Skier) Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2007 16:28:57 -0400 Subject: LDSC: HT/VT export MLS 2.6 In-Reply-To: <005a01c7d85c$00526860$6401a8c0@cciclass4> References: <46B160DF.4030005@gmail.com> <46B518C3.4060809@rusticate.net> <46B51FDE.1040300@gmail.com> <24D03AB3BA9F41BE8D4E20DA089251FC@thomasi8xblgbf> <005a01c7d85c$00526860$6401a8c0@cciclass4> Message-ID: <46B78489.5030405@rusticate.net> >From LDSClerks: Please see bottom of this message for subscription instructions and list URL. Has anybody played with the export HT/VT data from MLS 2.6? At both of the wards I've upgraded so far there were only assistant clerks without admin access so we couldn't test it out. What does that particular function do? >From ldsclerks: Please do not send copyrighted material to ldsclerks. See list info at: http://www.MormonsToday.com/ldsclerks/index.html Send commands in the body of a message to majordomo at MormonsToday.com To join: subscribe ldsclerks To leave: unsubscribe ldsclerks To join digest: subscribe ldsclerks-digest From Steve.Neeland at ingrambook.com Mon Aug 6 15:30:55 2007 From: Steve.Neeland at ingrambook.com (Neeland, Steve) Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2007 16:30:55 -0400 Subject: LDSC: FW: online Message-ID: <200708062247.l76Ml8M9031263@mormonstoday.propagation.net> >From LDSClerks: Please see bottom of this message for subscription instructions and list URL. My Bishop lost URL for the Online Missionary Recommendation site. Help???? Steve >From ldsclerks: Please do not send copyrighted material to ldsclerks. See list info at: http://www.MormonsToday.com/ldsclerks/index.html Send commands in the body of a message to majordomo at MormonsToday.com To join: subscribe ldsclerks To leave: unsubscribe ldsclerks To join digest: subscribe ldsclerks-digest From jeffp at jeffszone.com Mon Aug 6 16:11:19 2007 From: jeffp at jeffszone.com (Jeff Phillips) Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2007 17:11:19 -0400 Subject: LDSC: Churches and electronic donations In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <50e74d5a0708061411x702be619x26988af37b70cf6b@mail.gmail.com> >From LDSClerks: Please see bottom of this message for subscription instructions and list URL. I'd like to see tithing history & payment options in the local unit website when members login. That would be especially handy for allowing members to bring to the clerk's attention when there are errors as they happen, rather than waiting until the end of the year. -Jeff On 8/6/07, Erik Peterson wrote: > > After the recent discussion on alternative methods of paying tithing, I > thought list members might be interested in this article on how other > churches > are dealing with the rise in electronic payments: > http://www.time.com/time/business/article/0,8599,1648022,00.html > > I don't think we'll be seeing ATMs in the foyer anytime soon and wards > already supply paper documentation of donations needed by the IRS, but I > do > agree with the final paragraph: > > > Yet MondayMorningInsights.com Editor Todd Rhoades precits that > electronic giving will > > inevitably grow. "I often hear people say that the only check they > still write each month is to > > the church," he says. "It seems that everything else has gone > electronic; the church will follow." > > Erik Peterson > > >From ldsclerks: Please do not send copyrighted material to ldsclerks. See list info at: http://www.MormonsToday.com/ldsclerks/index.html Send commands in the body of a message to majordomo at MormonsToday.com To join: subscribe ldsclerks To leave: unsubscribe ldsclerks To join digest: subscribe ldsclerks-digest From reggie at internet49.com Mon Aug 6 16:47:31 2007 From: reggie at internet49.com (Reggie) Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2007 17:47:31 -0400 Subject: LDSC: HT/VT export MLS 2.6 References: <46B160DF.4030005@gmail.com> <46B518C3.4060809@rusticate.net> <46B51FDE.1040300@gmail.com> <24D03AB3BA9F41BE8D4E20DA089251FC@thomasi8xblgbf> <005a01c7d85c$00526860$6401a8c0@cciclass4> <46B78489.5030405@rusticate.net> Message-ID: <000f01c7d873$71077020$6500a8c0@REGGIE> >From LDSClerks: Please see bottom of this message for subscription instructions and list URL. Yes You can export your HT/VT data from MLS 2.6 in a CSV format for a palm or what every. Reggie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Skier" To: Cc: "Skier" Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 1:28 PM Subject: LDSC: HT/VT export MLS 2.6 > >>From LDSClerks: Please see bottom of this message for subscription >>instructions and list URL. > > Has anybody played with the export HT/VT data from MLS 2.6? At both of > the wards I've upgraded so far there were only assistant clerks without > admin access so we couldn't test it out. What does that particular > function do? > >>From ldsclerks: Please do not send copyrighted material to ldsclerks. > See list info at: http://www.MormonsToday.com/ldsclerks/index.html > > Send commands in the body of a message to majordomo at MormonsToday.com > To join: subscribe ldsclerks > To leave: unsubscribe ldsclerks > To join digest: subscribe ldsclerks-digest > > >From ldsclerks: Please do not send copyrighted material to ldsclerks. See list info at: http://www.MormonsToday.com/ldsclerks/index.html Send commands in the body of a message to majordomo at MormonsToday.com To join: subscribe ldsclerks To leave: unsubscribe ldsclerks To join digest: subscribe ldsclerks-digest From ldsskier at rusticate.net Mon Aug 6 17:02:21 2007 From: ldsskier at rusticate.net (Skier) Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2007 18:02:21 -0400 Subject: LDSC: Ward clerk and assistant stake clerk? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <46B79A6D.5000303@rusticate.net> >From LDSClerks: Please see bottom of this message for subscription instructions and list URL. Frank OBeirne wrote: > I am a Ward Clerk, an Assistant Stake Clerk/Stake Technology > Specialist(STS). I didn't know that a single individual could hold both callings? Are there any other stakes that do it like this? >From ldsclerks: Please do not send copyrighted material to ldsclerks. See list info at: http://www.MormonsToday.com/ldsclerks/index.html Send commands in the body of a message to majordomo at MormonsToday.com To join: subscribe ldsclerks To leave: unsubscribe ldsclerks To join digest: subscribe ldsclerks-digest From ldsskier at rusticate.net Mon Aug 6 17:04:59 2007 From: ldsskier at rusticate.net (Skier) Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2007 18:04:59 -0400 Subject: LDSC: MLS 2.6 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <46B79B0B.6070308@rusticate.net> >From LDSClerks: Please see bottom of this message for subscription instructions and list URL. Skip Taylor wrote: >>From LDSClerks: Please see bottom of this message for subscription instructions and list URL. > > I was unable to get MLS 2.6 to install on a Dell Optiplex GX270 today. It > kept saying it could not install "there" and no matter where I told it to > move to, it would fail to install. > > Anyone have that happen yet? This was downloaded the day of the > announcement. Maybe a bad download? Question 1: what version of MLS do you currently have? Question 2: Are you running Desktop 5.5? Question 3: Are you logged in as an administrator (desktop account) Check the installation log for errors. If things get really bad you can use one of the utilities from Sysinternals to monitor file access and see what file is gacking as it installs and where it is trying to go. >From ldsclerks: Please do not send copyrighted material to ldsclerks. See list info at: http://www.MormonsToday.com/ldsclerks/index.html Send commands in the body of a message to majordomo at MormonsToday.com To join: subscribe ldsclerks To leave: unsubscribe ldsclerks To join digest: subscribe ldsclerks-digest From reggie at internet49.com Mon Aug 6 18:12:26 2007 From: reggie at internet49.com (Reggie) Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2007 19:12:26 -0400 Subject: LDSC: online Missionary References: <200708062247.l76Ml8M9031263@mormonstoday.propagation.net> Message-ID: <001f01c7d87f$413f4460$6500a8c0@REGGIE> >From LDSClerks: Please see bottom of this message for subscription instructions and list URL. Steve I think this is the one your are looking for. Reggie http://www.lds.org/mss/start/1,18596,,00.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Neeland, Steve" To: Cc: "Neeland, Steve" Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 1:30 PM Subject: LDSC: FW: online >From LDSClerks: Please see bottom of this message for subscription >instructions and list URL. My Bishop lost URL for the Online Missionary Recommendation site. Help???? Steve >From ldsclerks: Please do not send copyrighted material to ldsclerks. See list info at: http://www.MormonsToday.com/ldsclerks/index.html Send commands in the body of a message to majordomo at MormonsToday.com To join: subscribe ldsclerks To leave: unsubscribe ldsclerks To join digest: subscribe ldsclerks-digest >From ldsclerks: Please do not send copyrighted material to ldsclerks. See list info at: http://www.MormonsToday.com/ldsclerks/index.html Send commands in the body of a message to majordomo at MormonsToday.com To join: subscribe ldsclerks To leave: unsubscribe ldsclerks To join digest: subscribe ldsclerks-digest From embunker817 at msn.com Mon Aug 6 18:12:49 2007 From: embunker817 at msn.com (Eric Bunker) Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2007 19:12:49 -0400 Subject: LDSC: Re: FW: online References: <200708062247.l76Ml8M9031263@mormonstoday.propagation.net> Message-ID: >From LDSClerks: Please see bottom of this message for subscription instructions and list URL. https://apps.lds.org/recentry/login.lds ----- Original Message ----- From: "Neeland, Steve" To: Cc: "Neeland, Steve" Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 1:30 PM Subject: LDSC: FW: online >From LDSClerks: Please see bottom of this message for subscription >instructions and list URL. My Bishop lost URL for the Online Missionary Recommendation site. Help???? Steve >From ldsclerks: Please do not send copyrighted material to ldsclerks. See list info at: http://www.MormonsToday.com/ldsclerks/index.html Send commands in the body of a message to majordomo at MormonsToday.com To join: subscribe ldsclerks To leave: unsubscribe ldsclerks To join digest: subscribe ldsclerks-digest >From ldsclerks: Please do not send copyrighted material to ldsclerks. See list info at: http://www.MormonsToday.com/ldsclerks/index.html Send commands in the body of a message to majordomo at MormonsToday.com To join: subscribe ldsclerks To leave: unsubscribe ldsclerks To join digest: subscribe ldsclerks-digest From russellhltn at gmail.com Mon Aug 6 18:31:06 2007 From: russellhltn at gmail.com (Russell Hltn) Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2007 19:31:06 -0400 Subject: LDSC: MLS 2.6 In-Reply-To: <4d7709f30708041847s487795f1ia5aebb0aaaf0f2bd@mail.gmail.com> References: <46B518C3.4060809@rusticate.net> <4d7709f30708041847s487795f1ia5aebb0aaaf0f2bd@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: >From LDSClerks: Please see bottom of this message for subscription instructions and list URL. The MLS 2.6 upgrade is as easy as it gets. Download 2.6. Download the requested training. Run the two setup files. Done. If you're talking about Desktop 5.5, that is quite involved and not for the faint of heart. However, if you've got units that haven't installed Desktop 5.5, now might be a good time to do it. >From ldsclerks: Please do not send copyrighted material to ldsclerks. See list info at: http://www.MormonsToday.com/ldsclerks/index.html Send commands in the body of a message to majordomo at MormonsToday.com To join: subscribe ldsclerks To leave: unsubscribe ldsclerks To join digest: subscribe ldsclerks-digest From ST122354 at ncr.com Mon Aug 6 18:33:16 2007 From: ST122354 at ncr.com (Talbot, Steve) Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2007 19:33:16 -0400 Subject: LDSC: FW: online In-Reply-To: <200708062247.l76Ml8M9031263@mormonstoday.propagation.net> References: <200708062247.l76Ml8M9031263@mormonstoday.propagation.net> Message-ID: <5E2AFE25D326C447A558EA33DD9A5C810125F645@susday250.corp.ncr.com> >From LDSClerks: Please see bottom of this message for subscription instructions and list URL. www.lds.org/mss > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-ldsclerks at MormonsToday.com > [mailto:owner-ldsclerks at MormonsToday.com] On Behalf Of Neeland, Steve > Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 1:31 PM > To: ldsclerks at MormonsToday.com > Cc: Neeland, Steve > Subject: LDSC: FW: online > > > My Bishop lost URL for the Online Missionary Recommendation site. > Help???? > > > Steve > > >From ldsclerks: Please do not send copyrighted material to ldsclerks. See list info at: http://www.MormonsToday.com/ldsclerks/index.html Send commands in the body of a message to majordomo at MormonsToday.com To join: subscribe ldsclerks To leave: unsubscribe ldsclerks To join digest: subscribe ldsclerks-digest From russellhltn at gmail.com Mon Aug 6 18:34:38 2007 From: russellhltn at gmail.com (Russell Hltn) Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2007 19:34:38 -0400 Subject: LDSC: MLS 2.6 In-Reply-To: <4d7709f30708021226vefa8648s8fa9ce4ccd86e591@mail.gmail.com> References: <4d7709f30708021224l17c9ab9dn5dd73f0961b3ad9d@mail.gmail.com> <4d7709f30708021226vefa8648s8fa9ce4ccd86e591@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: >From LDSClerks: Please see bottom of this message for subscription instructions and list URL. Desktop 5.5 and MLS 2.6 are two completely different things. MLS 2.6 is JUST the MLS program itself. Desktop 5.5 is a operating system replacement. It doesn't include MLS. If the computer is brand new, it might already contain Desktop 5.5. On 8/2/07, allen dreher wrote: > > I've got a quick question, we received a new computer today. Our old one was > Windows 2000 Professional. I installed MLS 2.4.3 and then 2.6. Do I still > need to install the 5.5 version or does the 2.6 cover all of that? > > Allen Dreher > Ward Clerk >From ldsclerks: Please do not send copyrighted material to ldsclerks. See list info at: http://www.MormonsToday.com/ldsclerks/index.html Send commands in the body of a message to majordomo at MormonsToday.com To join: subscribe ldsclerks To leave: unsubscribe ldsclerks To join digest: subscribe ldsclerks-digest From drepouille at hotmail.com Mon Aug 6 20:32:50 2007 From: drepouille at hotmail.com (Dana Repouille) Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2007 21:32:50 -0400 Subject: LDSC: MLS 2.6 In-Reply-To: References: <4d7709f30708021224l17c9ab9dn5dd73f0961b3ad9d@mail.gmail.com> <4d7709f30708021226vefa8648s8fa9ce4ccd86e591@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <005301c7d892$dde7a880$0301a8c0@3nnwq61> >From LDSClerks: Please see bottom of this message for subscription instructions and list URL. "If the computer is brand new, it might already contain Desktop 5.5." Not here! The Optiplex 740 we received had a stock image from Dell. Dana >From ldsclerks: Please do not send copyrighted material to ldsclerks. See list info at: http://www.MormonsToday.com/ldsclerks/index.html Send commands in the body of a message to majordomo at MormonsToday.com To join: subscribe ldsclerks To leave: unsubscribe ldsclerks To join digest: subscribe ldsclerks-digest From computerdoctor at stx.rr.com Mon Aug 6 20:38:08 2007 From: computerdoctor at stx.rr.com (Wayne Rogers) Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2007 21:38:08 -0400 Subject: LDSC: Re: Ward clerk and assistant stake clerk? References: <46B79A6D.5000303@rusticate.net> Message-ID: <003301c7d893$9c361290$6701a8c0@ComputerDoc> >From LDSClerks: Please see bottom of this message for subscription instructions and list URL. This happens in the smaller units. I am in a 6 unit District (was 5 until last week), and I am the District Clerk, on the High Council, Tech Spec for District, and gosple Doctrine Teacher in the Branch. Wayne in Del Rio, TX ----- Original Message ----- From: "Skier" To: Cc: "Skier" Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 5:02 PM Subject: LDSC: Ward clerk and assistant stake clerk? > >>From LDSClerks: Please see bottom of this message for subscription >>instructions and list URL. > > Frank OBeirne wrote: > >> I am a Ward Clerk, an Assistant Stake Clerk/Stake Technology >> Specialist(STS). > > I didn't know that a single individual could hold both callings? Are > there any other stakes that do it like this? > >>From ldsclerks: Please do not send copyrighted material to ldsclerks. > See list info at: http://www.MormonsToday.com/ldsclerks/index.html > > Send commands in the body of a message to majordomo at MormonsToday.com > To join: subscribe ldsclerks > To leave: unsubscribe ldsclerks > To join digest: subscribe ldsclerks-digest > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.6/938 - Release Date: 8/5/2007 > 4:16 PM > > >From ldsclerks: Please do not send copyrighted material to ldsclerks. See list info at: http://www.MormonsToday.com/ldsclerks/index.html Send commands in the body of a message to majordomo at MormonsToday.com To join: subscribe ldsclerks To leave: unsubscribe ldsclerks To join digest: subscribe ldsclerks-digest From lajacksn at gmail.com Mon Aug 6 21:28:08 2007 From: lajacksn at gmail.com (Larry Jackson) Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2007 22:28:08 -0400 Subject: LDSC: Re: MLS 2.6 In-Reply-To: References: <4d7709f30708021224l17c9ab9dn5dd73f0961b3ad9d@mail.gmail.com> <4d7709f30708021226vefa8648s8fa9ce4ccd86e591@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <46B7D8B8.7030608@gmail.com> >From LDSClerks: Please see bottom of this message for subscription instructions and list URL. Dana Repouille: "If the computer is brand new, it might already contain Desktop 5.5." Not here! The Optiplex 740 we received had a stock image from Dell. _______________ And do not forget that when you load Desktop 5.5 now, you also need to run the Local Unit Security Suite Update, as well. Fun. Larry Jackson >From ldsclerks: Please do not send copyrighted material to ldsclerks. See list info at: http://www.MormonsToday.com/ldsclerks/index.html Send commands in the body of a message to majordomo at MormonsToday.com To join: subscribe ldsclerks To leave: unsubscribe ldsclerks To join digest: subscribe ldsclerks-digest From rpyne at kinfolk.org Mon Aug 6 21:42:37 2007 From: rpyne at kinfolk.org (Richard Pyne) Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2007 22:42:37 -0400 Subject: LDSC: Ward clerk and assistant stake clerk? In-Reply-To: <46B79A6D.5000303@rusticate.net> References: , <46B79A6D.5000303@rusticate.net> Message-ID: <46B787BD.4323.2BE943A@rpyne.kinfolk.org> >From LDSClerks: Please see bottom of this message for subscription instructions and list URL. I did it for about two years. Now I am the Stake Clerk. --Ricahrd On 6 Aug 2007 at 18:02, Skier wrote: > > > I am a Ward Clerk, an Assistant Stake Clerk/Stake Technology > > Specialist(STS). > > I didn't know that a single individual could hold both callings? Are > there any other stakes that do it like this? > >From ldsclerks: Please do not send copyrighted material to ldsclerks. See list info at: http://www.MormonsToday.com/ldsclerks/index.html Send commands in the body of a message to majordomo at MormonsToday.com To join: subscribe ldsclerks To leave: unsubscribe ldsclerks To join digest: subscribe ldsclerks-digest From lajacksn at gmail.com Mon Aug 6 21:47:01 2007 From: lajacksn at gmail.com (Larry Jackson) Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2007 22:47:01 -0400 Subject: LDSC: Re: Ward clerk and assistant stake clerk? In-Reply-To: <003301c7d893$9c361290$6701a8c0@ComputerDoc> References: <46B79A6D.5000303@rusticate.net> <003301c7d893$9c361290$6701a8c0@ComputerDoc> Message-ID: <46B7DD25.60102@gmail.com> >From LDSClerks: Please see bottom of this message for subscription instructions and list URL. Frank OBeirne: I am a Ward Clerk, an Assistant Stake Clerk/ Stake Technology Specialist(STS). Skier: . . . a single individual could hold both callings? _______________ In my nearly 10 years as Stake Computer Specialist, I was never sustained to the calling and always had another major leadership calling at the same time. I am very much enjoying helping our new specialist learn his duties. Larry Jackson >From ldsclerks: Please do not send copyrighted material to ldsclerks. See list info at: http://www.MormonsToday.com/ldsclerks/index.html Send commands in the body of a message to majordomo at MormonsToday.com To join: subscribe ldsclerks To leave: unsubscribe ldsclerks To join digest: subscribe ldsclerks-digest From jwtaber at juno.com Mon Aug 6 21:47:31 2007 From: jwtaber at juno.com (John Taber) Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2007 22:47:31 -0400 Subject: LDSC: Ward clerk and assistant stake clerk? Message-ID: <20070806.224731.27943.0@webmail07.lax.untd.com> >From LDSClerks: Please see bottom of this message for subscription instructions and list URL. -- Skier wrote: I didn't know that a single individual could hold both callings? Are there any other stakes that do it like this? * * * On my mission in Italy, having a district calling generally did not excuse someone from having a branch calling. So the district president was also branch mission leader, and the district clerk was also elders' quorum president. >From ldsclerks: Please do not send copyrighted material to ldsclerks. See list info at: http://www.MormonsToday.com/ldsclerks/index.html Send commands in the body of a message to majordomo at MormonsToday.com To join: subscribe ldsclerks To leave: unsubscribe ldsclerks To join digest: subscribe ldsclerks-digest From tdmorris at htcomp.net Mon Aug 6 23:01:34 2007 From: tdmorris at htcomp.net (Travis Morris) Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2007 00:01:34 -0400 Subject: LDSC: Re: FW: online References: <200708062247.l76Ml8M9031263@mormonstoday.propagation.net> Message-ID: <001e01c7d8a7$a6d47cf0$0100a8c0@Dell> >From LDSClerks: Please see bottom of this message for subscription instructions and list URL. http://www.lds.org/mss/start/1,18596,,00.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Neeland, Steve" To: Cc: "Neeland, Steve" Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 3:30 PM Subject: LDSC: FW: online >From LDSClerks: Please see bottom of this message for subscription >instructions and list URL. My Bishop lost URL for the Online Missionary Recommendation site. Help???? Steve >From ldsclerks: Please do not send copyrighted material to ldsclerks. See list info at: http://www.MormonsToday.com/ldsclerks/index.html Send commands in the body of a message to majordomo at MormonsToday.com To join: subscribe ldsclerks To leave: unsubscribe ldsclerks To join digest: subscribe ldsclerks-digest >From ldsclerks: Please do not send copyrighted material to ldsclerks. See list info at: http://www.MormonsToday.com/ldsclerks/index.html Send commands in the body of a message to majordomo at MormonsToday.com To join: subscribe ldsclerks To leave: unsubscribe ldsclerks To join digest: subscribe ldsclerks-digest From russellhltn at gmail.com Mon Aug 6 23:25:32 2007 From: russellhltn at gmail.com (Russell Hltn) Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2007 00:25:32 -0400 Subject: LDSC: Re: MLS 2.6 In-Reply-To: <46B7D8B8.7030608@gmail.com> References: <4d7709f30708021224l17c9ab9dn5dd73f0961b3ad9d@mail.gmail.com> <4d7709f30708021226vefa8648s8fa9ce4ccd86e591@mail.gmail.com> <46B7D8B8.7030608@gmail.com> Message-ID: >From LDSClerks: Please see bottom of this message for subscription instructions and list URL. We do? I thought that was for installing on machines that can't take Desktop 5.5. On 8/6/07, Larry Jackson wrote: > > > And do not forget that when you load Desktop 5.5 now, you also need to > run the Local Unit Security Suite Update, as well. > > Fun. > > Larry Jackson > >From ldsclerks: Please do not send copyrighted material to ldsclerks. See list info at: http://www.MormonsToday.com/ldsclerks/index.html Send commands in the body of a message to majordomo at MormonsToday.com To join: subscribe ldsclerks To leave: unsubscribe ldsclerks To join digest: subscribe ldsclerks-digest From bordenjr at knology.net Tue Aug 7 05:37:39 2007 From: bordenjr at knology.net (Mitch Borden) Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2007 06:37:39 -0400 Subject: LDSC: Churches and electronic donations In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20070807063446.039c8ea0@knology.net> >From LDSClerks: Please see bottom of this message for subscription instructions and list URL. At 01:12 PM 8/6/2007, you wrote: > From LDSClerks: Please see bottom of this message for subscription > instructions and list URL. > > > After the recent discussion on alternative methods of paying > tithing, I thought list members might be interested in this article > on how other churches are dealing with the rise in electronic payments: > http://www.time.com/time/business/article/0,8599,1648022,00.html > > I don't think we'll be seeing ATMs in the foyer anytime soon and > wards already supply paper documentation of donations needed by the > IRS, but I do agree with the final paragraph: > >> Yet MondayMorningInsights.com Editor Todd Rhoades precits that >> electronic giving will inevitably grow. "I often hear people say >> that the only check they still write each month is to the church," >> he says. "It seems that everything else has gone electronic; the >> church will follow." > >Erik Peterson We already have two of our members who have made arrangements with their banks to have their monthly tithing & offerings check mailed to the Bishop. They have a steady income, so they know what their "increase" is each month, so it is easy for them to do this. Before they started it, they left us instructions as to what the breakdown of each check is, so we just fill out a donation slip for them when the Bishop gives us the check from the bank. Each family tells us they are virtually paperless in their financial transactions. Mitch Borden >From ldsclerks: Please do not send copyrighted material to ldsclerks. See list info at: http://www.MormonsToday.com/ldsclerks/index.html Send commands in the body of a message to majordomo at MormonsToday.com To join: subscribe ldsclerks To leave: unsubscribe ldsclerks To join digest: subscribe ldsclerks-digest From ldsskier at rusticate.net Tue Aug 7 07:28:28 2007 From: ldsskier at rusticate.net (Skier) Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2007 08:28:28 -0400 Subject: LDSC: Re: MLS 2.6 In-Reply-To: References: <4d7709f30708021224l17c9ab9dn5dd73f0961b3ad9d@mail.gmail.com> <4d7709f30708021226vefa8648s8fa9ce4ccd86e591@mail.gmail.com> <46B7D8B8.7030608@gmail.com> Message-ID: <46B8656C.6090306@rusticate.net> >From LDSClerks: Please see bottom of this message for subscription instructions and list URL. Russell Hltn wrote: >>From LDSClerks: Please see bottom of this message for subscription instructions and list URL. > > We do? I thought that was for installing on machines that can't take > Desktop 5.5. If your machine can't take 5.5 then it needs to be replaced. ASAP. Getting my local FM group to replace one of the ward systems was a difficult task (they have their own agenda and apparently don't feel that they should answer to any but themselves) but it was done. To be absolutely, 100% perfectly clear, by this point if your system can't take 5.5 then it is a non-standard machine that does not meet the minimum specs and should have been replaced already. >From ldsclerks: Please do not send copyrighted material to ldsclerks. See list info at: http://www.MormonsToday.com/ldsclerks/index.html Send commands in the body of a message to majordomo at MormonsToday.com To join: subscribe ldsclerks To leave: unsubscribe ldsclerks To join digest: subscribe ldsclerks-digest From Steve.Neeland at ingrambook.com Tue Aug 7 07:34:35 2007 From: Steve.Neeland at ingrambook.com (Neeland, Steve) Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2007 08:34:35 -0400 Subject: LDSC: FW: online missionary system In-Reply-To: <46B7B857.2050907@xmission.com> Message-ID: <61F9465B7871FA4AAF36C89DCC2064B92590410A@IBC2K3EXCH.ingrambook.com> >From LDSClerks: Please see bottom of this message for subscription instructions and list URL. Thanks to all! I'm safe for a little while longer now.... Steve -----Original Message----- From: Chuck Johnson [mailto:wa7jos at xmission.com] Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 7:10 PM Cc: Neeland, Steve Subject: Re: LDSC: FW: online lds.org/mss Training at: lds/org/mss/start Neeland, Steve wrote: > >From LDSClerks: Please see bottom of this message for subscription instructions and list URL. > > > My Bishop lost URL for the Online Missionary Recommendation site. > Help???? > > > Steve >From ldsclerks: Please do not send copyrighted material to ldsclerks. See list info at: http://www.MormonsToday.com/ldsclerks/index.html Send commands in the body of a message to majordomo at MormonsToday.com To join: subscribe ldsclerks To leave: unsubscribe ldsclerks To join digest: subscribe ldsclerks-digest From tlwalker at nethere.com Tue Aug 7 11:09:21 2007 From: tlwalker at nethere.com (Tom Walker) Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2007 12:09:21 -0400 Subject: LDSC: Churches and electronic donations In-Reply-To: <50e74d5a0708061411x702be619x26988af37b70cf6b@mail.gmail.com> References: <50e74d5a0708061411x702be619x26988af37b70cf6b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <46B89931.7060300@nethere.com> >From LDSClerks: Please see bottom of this message for subscription instructions and list URL. Now that one is full of possible VIOLATION of sensitive information possibilities. I think it is a VERY bad Idea. Tom Walker Jeff Phillips wrote: > >From LDSClerks: Please see bottom of this message for subscription instructions and list URL. > > > I'd like to see tithing history & payment options in the local unit website > when members login. That would be especially handy for allowing members to > bring to the clerk's attention when there are errors as they happen, rather > than waiting until the end of the year. > > -Jeff > > On 8/6/07, Erik Peterson wrote: > >> After the recent discussion on alternative methods of paying tithing, I >> thought list members might be interested in this article on how other >> churches >> are dealing with the rise in electronic payments: >> http://www.time.com/time/business/article/0,8599,1648022,00.html >> >> I don't think we'll be seeing ATMs in the foyer anytime soon and wards >> already supply paper documentation of donations needed by the IRS, but I >> do >> agree with the final paragraph: >> >> >>> Yet MondayMorningInsights.com Editor Todd Rhoades precits that >>> >> electronic giving will >> >>> inevitably grow. "I often hear people say that the only check they >>> >> still write each month is to >> >>> the church," he says. "It seems that everything else has gone >>> >> electronic; the church will follow." >> >> Erik Peterson >> >> >> > > > >From ldsclerks: Please do not send copyrighted material to ldsclerks. > See list info at: http://www.MormonsToday.com/ldsclerks/index.html > > Send commands in the body of a message to majordomo at MormonsToday.com > To join: subscribe ldsclerks > To leave: unsubscribe ldsclerks > To join digest: subscribe ldsclerks-digest > > > > > >From ldsclerks: Please do not send copyrighted material to ldsclerks. See list info at: http://www.MormonsToday.com/ldsclerks/index.html Send commands in the body of a message to majordomo at MormonsToday.com To join: subscribe ldsclerks To leave: unsubscribe ldsclerks To join digest: subscribe ldsclerks-digest From tlwalker at nethere.com Tue Aug 7 11:20:29 2007 From: tlwalker at nethere.com (Tom Walker) Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2007 12:20:29 -0400 Subject: LDSC: Ward clerk and assistant stake clerk? In-Reply-To: <46B79A6D.5000303@rusticate.net> References: <46B79A6D.5000303@rusticate.net> Message-ID: <46B89BCD.1030505@nethere.com> >From LDSClerks: Please see bottom of this message for subscription instructions and list URL. As I recall Technically anyone with a Stake Calling is supposed to have NO other calling. But out stake for a while has a High councilman as the Asst Clerk for Technology. And while I have it pounded into my Head every time as the Ward Clerk I open my mouth in a Bishopric meeting nothing in the Handbook is really cast in Stone. I disagree with that quite a bit but MY Bishop/Stake President RIGHT or WRONG, until it affects my Temple Worthiness.!!! Tom Walker Skier wrote: > >From LDSClerks: Please see bottom of this message for subscription instructions and list URL. > > Frank OBeirne wrote: > > >> I am a Ward Clerk, an Assistant Stake Clerk/Stake Technology >> Specialist(STS). >> > > I didn't know that a single individual could hold both callings? Are > there any other stakes that do it like this? > > >From ldsclerks: Please do not send copyrighted material to ldsclerks. > See list info at: http://www.MormonsToday.com/ldsclerks/index.html > > Send commands in the body of a message to majordomo at MormonsToday.com > To join: subscribe ldsclerks > To leave: unsubscribe ldsclerks > To join digest: subscribe ldsclerks-digest > > > > > >From ldsclerks: Please do not send copyrighted material to ldsclerks. See list info at: http://www.MormonsToday.com/ldsclerks/index.html Send commands in the body of a message to majordomo at MormonsToday.com To join: subscribe ldsclerks To leave: unsubscribe ldsclerks To join digest: subscribe ldsclerks-digest From price_dc at hotmail.com Tue Aug 7 11:22:09 2007 From: price_dc at hotmail.com (David P.) Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2007 12:22:09 -0400 Subject: LDSC: MLS 2.6 In-Reply-To: <000601c7d859$b8e060b0$6500a8c0@REGGIE> Message-ID: >From LDSClerks: Please see bottom of this message for subscription instructions and list URL. I'm downloading the files right now, and came up with a question. Can we run two training installers? We have several Spanish speaking members, including our financial clerk (who speaks very little English). It would be very helpful if both languages were available. Thoughts? Dave Price Mt. Pleasant IA Branch -- Installing 2.6 tonight (assuming all the downloads arrive)! >From ldsclerks: Please do not send copyrighted material to ldsclerks. See list info at: http://www.MormonsToday.com/ldsclerks/index.html Send commands in the body of a message to majordomo at MormonsToday.com To join: subscribe ldsclerks To leave: unsubscribe ldsclerks To join digest: subscribe ldsclerks-digest From tlwalker at nethere.com Tue Aug 7 11:23:32 2007 From: tlwalker at nethere.com (Tom Walker) Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2007 12:23:32 -0400 Subject: LDSC: MLS 2.6 In-Reply-To: References: <46B518C3.4060809@rusticate.net> <4d7709f30708041847s487795f1ia5aebb0aaaf0f2bd@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <46B89C84.7010107@nethere.com> >From LDSClerks: Please see bottom of this message for subscription instructions and list URL. Our Stake people claim they have heard NOTHING about Desktop 5.5. And as a Ward Clerk from what I have heard I am in NO rush to get the Java Resource HOG on my machine. Tom Walker Russell Hltn wrote: > >From LDSClerks: Please see bottom of this message for subscription instructions and list URL. > > The MLS 2.6 upgrade is as easy as it gets. Download 2.6. Download > the requested training. Run the two setup files. Done. > > > If you're talking about Desktop 5.5, that is quite involved and not > for the faint of heart. However, if you've got units that haven't > installed Desktop 5.5, now might be a good time to do it. > > >From ldsclerks: Please do not send copyrighted material to ldsclerks. > See list info at: http://www.MormonsToday.com/ldsclerks/index.html > > Send commands in the body of a message to majordomo at MormonsToday.com > To join: subscribe ldsclerks > To leave: unsubscribe ldsclerks > To join digest: subscribe ldsclerks-digest > > > > > >From ldsclerks: Please do not send copyrighted material to ldsclerks. See list info at: http://www.MormonsToday.com/ldsclerks/index.html Send commands in the body of a message to majordomo at MormonsToday.com To join: subscribe ldsclerks To leave: unsubscribe ldsclerks To join digest: subscribe ldsclerks-digest From tlwalker at nethere.com Tue Aug 7 11:41:19 2007 From: tlwalker at nethere.com (Tom Walker) Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2007 12:41:19 -0400 Subject: LDSC: Churches and electronic donations In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20070807063446.039c8ea0@knology.net> References: <7.0.1.0.2.20070807063446.039c8ea0@knology.net> Message-ID: <46B8A0AF.3070007@nethere.com> >From LDSClerks: Please see bottom of this message for subscription instructions and list URL. Now that I see happing far more then ATM's. and it can be set up for individual checks for Tithing, Fast or any other category. Tom Walker Mitch Borden wrote: > >> From LDSClerks: Please see bottom of this message for subscription >> instructions and list URL. > > At 01:12 PM 8/6/2007, you wrote: > >> From LDSClerks: Please see bottom of this message for subscription >> instructions and list URL. >> >> >> After the recent discussion on alternative methods of paying >> tithing, I thought list members might be interested in this article >> on how other churches are dealing with the rise in electronic payments: >> http://www.time.com/time/business/article/0,8599,1648022,00.html >> >> I don't think we'll be seeing ATMs in the foyer anytime soon and >> wards already supply paper documentation of donations needed by the >> IRS, but I do agree with the final paragraph: >> >>> Yet MondayMorningInsights.com Editor Todd Rhoades precits that >>> electronic giving will inevitably grow. "I often hear people say >>> that the only check they still write each month is to the church," >>> he says. "It seems that everything else has gone electronic; the >>> church will follow." >> >> Erik Peterson > > We already have two of our members who have made arrangements with > their banks to have their monthly tithing & offerings check mailed to > the Bishop. They have a steady income, so they know what their > "increase" is each month, so it is easy for them to do this. Before > they started it, they left us instructions as to what the breakdown of > each check is, so we just fill out a donation slip for them when the > Bishop gives us the check from the bank. Each family tells us they > are virtually paperless in their financial transactions. > > Mitch Borden > >> From ldsclerks: Please do not send copyrighted material to ldsclerks. > See list info at: http://www.MormonsToday.com/ldsclerks/index.html > > Send commands in the body of a message to majordomo at MormonsToday.com > To join: subscribe ldsclerks > To leave: unsubscribe ldsclerks > To join digest: subscribe ldsclerks-digest > > > > >From ldsclerks: Please do not send copyrighted material to ldsclerks. See list info at: http://www.MormonsToday.com/ldsclerks/index.html Send commands in the body of a message to majordomo at MormonsToday.com To join: subscribe ldsclerks To leave: unsubscribe ldsclerks To join digest: subscribe ldsclerks-digest From ldsskier at rusticate.net Tue Aug 7 12:07:25 2007 From: ldsskier at rusticate.net (Skier) Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2007 13:07:25 -0400 Subject: LDSC: MLS 2.6 In-Reply-To: <46B89C84.7010107@nethere.com> References: <46B518C3.4060809@rusticate.net> <4d7709f30708041847s487795f1ia5aebb0aaaf0f2bd@mail.gmail.com> <46B89C84.7010107@nethere.com> Message-ID: <40091.70.228.227.21.1186506445.squirrel@75.126.28.138> >From LDSClerks: Please see bottom of this message for subscription instructions and list URL. On Tue, August 7, 2007 12:23 pm, Tom Walker wrote: > >>From LDSClerks: Please see bottom of this message for subscription >> instructions and list URL. > > Our Stake people claim they have heard NOTHING about Desktop 5.5. And as > a Ward Clerk from what I have heard I am in NO rush to get the Java > Resource HOG on my machine. If you are running MLS then you already have the java resource hog. >From ldsclerks: Please do not send copyrighted material to ldsclerks. See list info at: http://www.MormonsToday.com/ldsclerks/index.html Send commands in the body of a message to majordomo at MormonsToday.com To join: subscribe ldsclerks To leave: unsubscribe ldsclerks To join digest: subscribe ldsclerks-digest From ldsskier at rusticate.net Tue Aug 7 12:08:54 2007 From: ldsskier at rusticate.net (Skier) Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2007 13:08:54 -0400 Subject: LDSC: MLS 2.6 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <40293.70.228.227.21.1186506534.squirrel@75.126.28.138> >From LDSClerks: Please see bottom of this message for subscription instructions and list URL. On Tue, August 7, 2007 12:22 pm, David P. wrote: > >>From LDSClerks: Please see bottom of this message for subscription >> instructions and list URL. > > I'm downloading the files right now, and came up with a question. Can > we run two training installers? I suspect this may cause an issue since the training programs are linked directly from MLS. Just a guess, but I would be somewhat surprised to learn that SLC provided for multiple languages within the same unit. >From ldsclerks: Please do not send copyrighted material to ldsclerks. See list info at: http://www.MormonsToday.com/ldsclerks/index.html Send commands in the body of a message to majordomo at MormonsToday.com To join: subscribe ldsclerks To leave: unsubscribe ldsclerks To join digest: subscribe ldsclerks-digest From rpyne at kinfolk.org Tue Aug 7 12:22:51 2007 From: rpyne at kinfolk.org (Richard Pyne) Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2007 13:22:51 -0400 Subject: LDSC: MLS 2.6 In-Reply-To: <46B89C84.7010107@nethere.com> References: <46B518C3.4060809@rusticate.net>, , <46B89C84.7010107@nethere.com> Message-ID: <46B8560B.8982.107F4C1@rpyne.kinfolk.org> >From LDSClerks: Please see bottom of this message for subscription instructions and list URL. On 7 Aug 2007 at 9:23, Tom Walker wrote: > Our Stake people claim they have heard NOTHING about Desktop 5.5. And as a > Ward Clerk from what I have heard I am in NO rush to get the Java Resource > HOG on my machine. Sorry to tell you, but if you have MLS, you have Java. Your Stake Clerk should have received a Desktop 5.5 update package back about February. --Richard >From ldsclerks: Please do not send copyrighted material to ldsclerks. See list info at: http://www.MormonsToday.com/ldsclerks/index.html Send commands in the body of a message to majordomo at MormonsToday.com To join: subscribe ldsclerks To leave: unsubscribe ldsclerks To join digest: subscribe ldsclerks-digest From russellhltn at gmail.com Tue Aug 7 12:52:13 2007 From: russellhltn at gmail.com (Russell Hltn) Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2007 13:52:13 -0400 Subject: LDSC: Re: MLS 2.6 In-Reply-To: <46B8656C.6090306@rusticate.net> References: <4d7709f30708021224l17c9ab9dn5dd73f0961b3ad9d@mail.gmail.com> <4d7709f30708021226vefa8648s8fa9ce4ccd86e591@mail.gmail.com> <46B7D8B8.7030608@gmail.com> <46B8656C.6090306@rusticate.net> Message-ID: >From LDSClerks: Please see bottom of this message for subscription instructions and list URL. That is not correct. The church provides "Nonstandard Computer Instructions" on their site. Those do not consist of "replace". On 8/7/07, Skier wrote: > > > If your machine can't take 5.5 then it needs to be replaced. ASAP. >From ldsclerks: Please do not send copyrighted material to ldsclerks. See list info at: http://www.MormonsToday.com/ldsclerks/index.html Send commands in the body of a message to majordomo at MormonsToday.com To join: subscribe ldsclerks To leave: unsubscribe ldsclerks To join digest: subscribe ldsclerks-digest From StoddardCE at ldschurch.org Tue Aug 7 13:21:26 2007 From: StoddardCE at ldschurch.org (Charles Stoddard) Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2007 14:21:26 -0400 Subject: LDSC: MLS 2.6 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <46B863C6.1571.0048.0@ldschurch.org> >From LDSClerks: Please see bottom of this message for subscription instructions and list URL. It's not recommended to run the installers at the same time, but you can install training in as many languages as you'd like. The training installer will create a shortcut on the desktop for each language, but the links inside MLS to the training will default to the language of MLS regardless of how many languages have been installed. >>> "David P." 8/7/2007 10:22 AM >>> >I'm downloading the files right now, and came up with a question. Can >we run two training installers? We have several Spanish speaking >members, including our financial clerk (who speaks very little >English). It would be very helpful if both languages were available. >Thoughts? >Dave Price >Mt. Pleasant IA Branch >-- Installing 2.6 tonight (assuming all the downloads arrive)! >From ldsclerks: Please do not send copyrighted material to ldsclerks. See list info at: http://www.MormonsToday.com/ldsclerks/index.html Send commands in the body of a message to majordomo at MormonsToday.com To join: subscribe ldsclerks To leave: unsubscribe ldsclerks To join digest: subscribe ldsclerks-digest From ldsskier at rusticate.net Tue Aug 7 14:18:51 2007 From: ldsskier at rusticate.net (Skier) Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2007 15:18:51 -0400 Subject: LDSC: Re: MLS 2.6 In-Reply-To: References: <4d7709f30708021224l17c9ab9dn5dd73f0961b3ad9d@mail.gmail.com> <4d7709f30708021226vefa8648s8fa9ce4ccd86e591@mail.gmail.com> <46B7D8B8.7030608@gmail.com> <46B8656C.6090306@rusticate.net> Message-ID: <61898.70.228.227.21.1186514331.squirrel@75.126.28.138> >From LDSClerks: Please see bottom of this message for subscription instructions and list URL. You are correct, but only if the system does not meet the minimum requirements (which one of the wards did not). On Tue, August 7, 2007 1:52 pm, Russell Hltn wrote: > >>From LDSClerks: Please see bottom of this message for subscription >> instructions and list URL. > > That is not correct. The church provides "Nonstandard Computer > Instructions" on their site. Those do not consist of "replace". > > On 8/7/07, Skier wrote: >> >> >> If your machine can't take 5.5 then it needs to be replaced. ASAP. > >>From ldsclerks: Please do not send copyrighted material to ldsclerks. > See list info at: http://www.MormonsToday.com/ldsclerks/index.html > > Send commands in the body of a message to majordomo at MormonsToday.com > To join: subscribe ldsclerks > To leave: unsubscribe ldsclerks > To join digest: subscribe ldsclerks-digest > > >From ldsclerks: Please do not send copyrighted material to ldsclerks. See list info at: http://www.MormonsToday.com/ldsclerks/index.html Send commands in the body of a message to majordomo at MormonsToday.com To join: subscribe ldsclerks To leave: unsubscribe ldsclerks To join digest: subscribe ldsclerks-digest From clerk.crescent at gmail.com Tue Aug 7 14:49:48 2007 From: clerk.crescent at gmail.com (Alan Brown) Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2007 15:49:48 -0400 Subject: LDSC: MLS 2.6 In-Reply-To: References: <000601c7d859$b8e060b0$6500a8c0@REGGIE> Message-ID: <7378de6f0708071249s3e4867efj29296ed6703f9a59@mail.gmail.com> >From LDSClerks: Please see bottom of this message for subscription instructions and list URL. On 8/7/07, David P. wrote: > Can we run two training installers? We have several Spanish speaking > members, including our financial clerk (who speaks very little > English). It would be very helpful if both languages were available. The training is installed to a language-specific folder. If memory serves, it is in C:\Program Files\LDS Church\Training\en for English, and I assume ..\es for Spanish, ..\de for German, etc. So it seems clear that you can install the training in multiple languages. As for the linkage directly from MLS, I'm not so sure -- you'd have to try it. But in any case, having the Spanish training installed and available is 90% of the battle -- the MLS links are just a convenience. Alan Brown Assistant Stake Clerk Sandy Utah Crescent Stake >From ldsclerks: Please do not send copyrighted material to ldsclerks. See list info at: http://www.MormonsToday.com/ldsclerks/index.html Send commands in the body of a message to majordomo at MormonsToday.com To join: subscribe ldsclerks To leave: unsubscribe ldsclerks To join digest: subscribe ldsclerks-digest From paulb2 at hawaiiantel.net Tue Aug 7 15:53:43 2007 From: paulb2 at hawaiiantel.net (Paul E. Bueltmann, Jr) Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2007 16:53:43 -0400 Subject: LDSC: LU DESKTOP 5.5 & Optiplex 740 Message-ID: <001a01c7d935$0b5a4d70$6e140a0a@DOWNSTAIRS> >From LDSClerks: Please see bottom of this message for subscription instructions and list URL. My name : Paul E. Bueltmann, Jr. Ward : Makaha Ward Stake : Makakilo Hawaii Position : Assistant Stake Clerk (Comp. Specialist) I have enough knowledge of computers to replace the self booting section of the cd/dvd to make it compatible with the SATA cd/dvd drives that are in the newer computers and all of the older ones too. I made a bootable DVD of all of the cds that were sent to me for installation. Added the Dell Drivers folder. Installed just fine on the Makaha Ward, Makakilo Hawaii Stake, it even found the drivers that were needed that were in the Dell folder. I have sent a copy to SLC for further evaluation. Hopefully HQ will finish the evaluation and send out copies to all units. Paul Asst. Stake Clerk, Makakilo Hawaii Stake >From ldsclerks: Please do not send copyrighted material to ldsclerks. See list info at: http://www.MormonsToday.com/ldsclerks/index.html Send commands in the body of a message to majordomo at MormonsToday.com To join: subscribe ldsclerks To leave: unsubscribe ldsclerks To join digest: subscribe ldsclerks-digest From russellhltn at gmail.com Tue Aug 7 15:56:35 2007 From: russellhltn at gmail.com (Russell Hltn) Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2007 16:56:35 -0400 Subject: LDSC: Re: MLS 2.6 In-Reply-To: <61898.70.228.227.21.1186514331.squirrel@75.126.28.138> References: <4d7709f30708021224l17c9ab9dn5dd73f0961b3ad9d@mail.gmail.com> <4d7709f30708021226vefa8648s8fa9ce4ccd86e591@mail.gmail.com> <46B7D8B8.7030608@gmail.com> <46B8656C.6090306@rusticate.net> <61898.70.228.227.21.1186514331.squirrel@75.126.28.138> Message-ID: >From LDSClerks: Please see bottom of this message for subscription instructions and list URL. Agreed. The computer must be able to meet the specification called out in Desktop 5.5 (updated from the original MLS roll out), but it may not be able to work with the Desktop 5.5 image which is somewhat machine dependent. >From ldsclerks: Please do not send copyrighted material to ldsclerks. See list info at: http://www.MormonsToday.com/ldsclerks/index.html Send commands in the body of a message to majordomo at MormonsToday.com To join: subscribe ldsclerks To leave: unsubscribe ldsclerks To join digest: subscribe ldsclerks-digest From russellhltn at gmail.com Tue Aug 7 15:59:21 2007 From: russellhltn at gmail.com (Russell Hltn) Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2007 16:59:21 -0400 Subject: LDSC: MLS 2.6 In-Reply-To: <7378de6f0708071249s3e4867efj29296ed6703f9a59@mail.gmail.com> References: <000601c7d859$b8e060b0$6500a8c0@REGGIE> <7378de6f0708071249s3e4867efj29296ed6703f9a59@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: >From LDSClerks: Please see bottom of this message for subscription instructions and list URL. As a wild guess, perhaps MLS links to the training language that matches MLS's language settings? It would be interesting to try. I'll have to give it a shot when I do the Tongan ward. The fact that MLS doesn't have a Tongan setting could make this interesting. On 8/7/07, Alan Brown wrote: > > > On 8/7/07, David P. wrote: > > Can we run two training installers? We have several Spanish speaking > > members, including our financial clerk (who speaks very little > > English). It would be very helpful if both languages were available. > > The training is installed to a language-specific folder. If memory > serves, it is in C:\Program Files\LDS Church\Training\en for English, > and I assume ..\es for Spanish, ..\de for German, etc. > > So it seems clear that you can install the training in multiple > languages. As for the linkage directly from MLS, I'm not so sure -- > you'd have to try it. But in any case, having the Spanish training > installed and available is 90% of the battle -- the MLS links are just > a convenience. > > Alan Brown > Assistant Stake Clerk > Sandy Utah Crescent Stake > >From ldsclerks: Please do not send copyrighted material to ldsclerks. See list info at: http://www.MormonsToday.com/ldsclerks/index.html Send commands in the body of a message to majordomo at MormonsToday.com To join: subscribe ldsclerks To leave: unsubscribe ldsclerks To join digest: subscribe ldsclerks-digest From allen.dreher at gmail.com Tue Aug 7 20:07:02 2007 From: allen.dreher at gmail.com (allen dreher) Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2007 21:07:02 -0400 Subject: LDSC: Re: MLS 2.6 In-Reply-To: <46B7D8B8.7030608@gmail.com> References: <4d7709f30708021224l17c9ab9dn5dd73f0961b3ad9d@mail.gmail.com> <4d7709f30708021226vefa8648s8fa9ce4ccd86e591@mail.gmail.com> <46B7D8B8.7030608@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4d7709f30708071807v59d7edb8h611690dc5a8ddac4@mail.gmail.com> >From LDSClerks: Please see bottom of this message for subscription instructions and list URL. I talked with SLC and when re-imaging the 5.5 and installing 2.6, all ya gotta do is backup 2.4.3, re-image, install 2.6, restore 2.4.3, (make sure you have SLC do the security release) and you're up and ready to go. Our stake also received the scanner for the new temple recommends. My bishop received the new recommends as well. I have learned that the stake clerk has to record all non-issued recommends from each unit and then destroy the old recommend books. That's a lot of work. Allen Dreher Ward Clerk San Antonio 1st Ward On 8/6/07, Larry Jackson wrote: > > Dana Repouille: > > "If the computer is brand new, it might already contain Desktop 5.5." > Not here! The Optiplex 740 we received had a stock image from Dell. > > _______________ > > And do not forget that when you load Desktop 5.5 now, you also need to > run the Local Unit Security Suite Update, as well. > > Fun. > > Larry Jackson > > -- Allen Dreher "At some deep level, consciously or unconsciously, you have to want to be joyful." - Thomas Kinkade >From ldsclerks: Please do not send copyrighted material to ldsclerks. See list info at: http://www.MormonsToday.com/ldsclerks/index.html Send commands in the body of a message to majordomo at MormonsToday.com To join: subscribe ldsclerks To leave: unsubscribe ldsclerks To join digest: subscribe ldsclerks-digest From lajacksn at gmail.com Tue Aug 7 22:37:01 2007 From: lajacksn at gmail.com (Larry Jackson) Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2007 23:37:01 -0400 Subject: LDSC: Re: MLS 2.6 In-Reply-To: References: <4d7709f30708021224l17c9ab9dn5dd73f0961b3ad9d@mail.gmail.com> <4d7709f30708021226vefa8648s8fa9ce4ccd86e591@mail.gmail.com> <46B7D8B8.7030608@gmail.com> Message-ID: <46B93A5D.8010803@gmail.com> >From LDSClerks: Please see bottom of this message for subscription instructions and list URL. Since you asked, I asked. Yes, SL wants us to run the Local Unit Security Suite Update after Desktop 5.5. It updates some of the 5.5 settings that they wanted to change, along with the virus definitions. Have a current copy of the virus definitions handy before you run the Suite Update, because you will need it. The Suite Update is newer than 5.5, but older than today. So the order is: Desktop 5.5 LU Security Suite Update Current Symantec Virus Definition Updates Larry Jackson __ Russell Hltn wrote: > > We do? I thought that was for installing on machines that can't take > Desktop 5.5. > > > On 8/6/07, Larry Jackson wrote: >> >> And do not forget that when you load Desktop 5.5 now, you also need to >> run the Local Unit Security Suite Update, as well. >> >> Fun. >From ldsclerks: Please do not send copyrighted material to ldsclerks. See list info at: http://www.MormonsToday.com/ldsclerks/index.html Send commands in the body of a message to majordomo at MormonsToday.com To join: subscribe ldsclerks To leave: unsubscribe ldsclerks To join digest: subscribe ldsclerks-digest From lajacksn at gmail.com Tue Aug 7 22:57:06 2007 From: lajacksn at gmail.com (Larry Jackson) Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2007 23:57:06 -0400 Subject: LDSC: Re: Ward clerk and assistant stake clerk? In-Reply-To: <46B89BCD.1030505@nethere.com> References: <46B79A6D.5000303@rusticate.net> <46B89BCD.1030505@nethere.com> Message-ID: <46B93F12.9040405@gmail.com> >From LDSClerks: Please see bottom of this message for subscription instructions and list URL. Tom Walker: As I recall Technically anyone with a Stake Calling is supposed to have NO other calling. _______________ This applies to more than just stake callings. What the handbook actually says is that, if possible, a member is called to serve in only one calling, in addition to assignments as a home teacher or visiting teacher. This is the ideal. The smaller the ward or branch, the farther the deviation from the ideal, in my experience. But even in very small units, there are better ways of handling callings than giving someone more than one calling. The guidelines in the Branch Guidebook give an excellent example of how this may be done. Larry Jackson >From ldsclerks: Please do not send copyrighted material to ldsclerks. See list info at: http://www.MormonsToday.com/ldsclerks/index.html Send commands in the body of a message to majordomo at MormonsToday.com To join: subscribe ldsclerks To leave: unsubscribe ldsclerks To join digest: subscribe ldsclerks-digest From don at colton.byuh.edu Tue Aug 7 23:25:23 2007 From: don at colton.byuh.edu (Don Colton) Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2007 00:25:23 -0400 Subject: LDSC: Churches and electronic donations Message-ID: <200708080425.l784PNrT018480@colton.byuh.edu> >From LDSClerks: Please see bottom of this message for subscription instructions and list URL. Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2007 06:37:39 -0400 From: Mitch Borden We already have two of our members who have made arrangements with their banks to have their monthly tithing & offerings check mailed to the Bishop. They have a steady income, so they know what their "increase" is each month, so it is easy for them to do this. Before they started it, they left us instructions as to what the breakdown of each check is, so we just fill out a donation slip for them when the Bishop gives us the check from the bank. Each family tells us they are virtually paperless in their financial transactions. Hmm. Hmm. I like that. Hmm. >From ldsclerks: Please do not send copyrighted material to ldsclerks. See list info at: http://www.MormonsToday.com/ldsclerks/index.html Send commands in the body of a message to majordomo at MormonsToday.com To join: subscribe ldsclerks To leave: unsubscribe ldsclerks To join digest: subscribe ldsclerks-digest From clerk.crescent at gmail.com Tue Aug 7 23:28:07 2007 From: clerk.crescent at gmail.com (Alan Brown) Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2007 00:28:07 -0400 Subject: LDSC: MLS 2.6 allows account reactivation Message-ID: <7378de6f0708072128g1c1a9583o264acef290482987@mail.gmail.com> >From LDSClerks: Please see bottom of this message for subscription instructions and list URL. On 6/16/07, Mark Werner wrote: > However, I do agree that an administrator should be able to restore a > deactivated account. That's indeed a poor implementation. Hallelujah! Although it isn't mentioned in the release notes, MLS 2.6 allows an administrator to restore an inactive user account. Nice. Alan Brown Assistant Stake Clerk Sandy Utah Crescent Stake >From ldsclerks: Please do not send copyrighted material to ldsclerks. See list info at: http://www.MormonsToday.com/ldsclerks/index.html Send commands in the body of a message to majordomo at MormonsToday.com To join: subscribe ldsclerks To leave: unsubscribe ldsclerks To join digest: subscribe ldsclerks-digest From russellhltn at gmail.com Tue Aug 7 23:37:04 2007 From: russellhltn at gmail.com (Russell Hltn) Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2007 00:37:04 -0400 Subject: LDSC: Re: MLS 2.6 In-Reply-To: <46B93A5D.8010803@gmail.com> References: <4d7709f30708021224l17c9ab9dn5dd73f0961b3ad9d@mail.gmail.com> <4d7709f30708021226vefa8648s8fa9ce4ccd86e591@mail.gmail.com> <46B7D8B8.7030608@gmail.com> <46B93A5D.8010803@gmail.com> Message-ID: >From LDSClerks: Please see bottom of this message for subscription instructions and list URL. Classic. I also called and the guy who answered said I didn't need it. But then he couldn't explain what the file was there for either. Oh, well. See what happens tonight. On 8/7/07, Larry Jackson wrote: > > >From LDSClerks: Please see bottom of this message for subscription instructions and list URL. > > Since you asked, I asked. Yes, SL wants us to run the Local Unit > Security Suite Update after Desktop 5.5. It updates some of the 5.5 > settings that they wanted to change, along with the virus definitions. > > Have a current copy of the virus definitions handy before you run the > Suite Update, because you will need it. The Suite Update is newer than > 5.5, but older than today. > > So the order is: > > Desktop 5.5 > LU Security Suite Update > Current Symantec Virus Definition Updates > > Larry Jackson > >From ldsclerks: Please do not send copyrighted material to ldsclerks. See list info at: http://www.MormonsToday.com/ldsclerks/index.html Send commands in the body of a message to majordomo at MormonsToday.com To join: subscribe ldsclerks To leave: unsubscribe ldsclerks To join digest: subscribe ldsclerks-digest From lajacksn at gmail.com Wed Aug 8 07:17:21 2007 From: lajacksn at gmail.com (Larry Jackson) Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2007 08:17:21 -0400 Subject: LDSC: Re: MLS 2.6 In-Reply-To: References: <4d7709f30708021224l17c9ab9dn5dd73f0961b3ad9d@mail.gmail.com> <4d7709f30708021226vefa8648s8fa9ce4ccd86e591@mail.gmail.com> <46B7D8B8.7030608@gmail.com> <46B93A5D.8010803@gmail.com> Message-ID: <46B9B451.5090000@gmail.com> >From LDSClerks: Please see bottom of this message for subscription instructions and list URL. Yep. That would be the same help desk I called. [sigh] Larry Jackson __ Russell Hltn wrote: > > Classic. I also called and the guy who answered said I didn't need > it. But then he couldn't explain what the file was there for either. > > Oh, well. See what happens tonight. > > On 8/7/07, Larry Jackson wrote: >> >> Since you asked, I asked. Yes, SL wants us to run the Local Unit >> Security Suite Update after Desktop 5.5. It updates some of the 5.5 >> settings that they wanted to change, along with the virus definitions. >> >> Have a current copy of the virus definitions handy before you run the >> Suite Update, because you will need it. The Suite Update is newer than >> 5.5, but older than today. >> >> So the order is: >> >> Desktop 5.5 >> LU Security Suite Update >> Current Symantec Virus Definition Updates >> >> Larry Jackson >From ldsclerks: Please do not send copyrighted material to ldsclerks. See list info at: http://www.MormonsToday.com/ldsclerks/index.html Send commands in the body of a message to majordomo at MormonsToday.com To join: subscribe ldsclerks To leave: unsubscribe ldsclerks To join digest: subscribe ldsclerks-digest From tdmorris at htcomp.net Wed Aug 8 08:08:53 2007 From: tdmorris at htcomp.net (Travis Morris) Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2007 09:08:53 -0400 Subject: LDSC: Desktop 5.5 References: <7378de6f0708072128g1c1a9583o264acef290482987@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <000b01c7d9bd$46b82cb0$0100a8c0@Dell> >From LDSClerks: Please see bottom of this message for subscription instructions and list URL. As a ward clerk, how would I know if the stakeTS installed Desktop 5.5 on my computer? Travis >From ldsclerks: Please do not send copyrighted material to ldsclerks. See list info at: http://www.MormonsToday.com/ldsclerks/index.html Send commands in the body of a message to majordomo at MormonsToday.com To join: subscribe ldsclerks To leave: unsubscribe ldsclerks To join digest: subscribe ldsclerks-digest From rpyne at kinfolk.org Wed Aug 8 08:24:20 2007 From: rpyne at kinfolk.org (Richard Pyne) Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2007 09:24:20 -0400 Subject: LDSC: Re: MLS 2.6 In-Reply-To: <46B9B451.5090000@gmail.com> References: <4d7709f30708021224l17c9ab9dn5dd73f0961b3ad9d@mail.gmail.com>, , <46B9B451.5090000@gmail.com> Message-ID: <46B96FA4.26719.17CAE1@rpyne.kinfolk.org> >From LDSClerks: Please see bottom of this message for subscription instructions and list URL. >From an MLS message dated 20 Apr 2007 from MLS Support to all Stake Clerks and Technology Specialists: "Even if you have already installed the Desktop 5.5 Image, we request that you download and install the Security Suite Installer, as it has been updated." --Richard On 8 Aug 2007 at 7:17, Larry Jackson wrote: > Yep. That would be the same help desk I called. [sigh] > Russell Hltn wrote: > > > > Classic. I also called and the guy who answered said I didn't need > > it. But then he couldn't explain what the file was there for either. > > > > Oh, well. See what happens tonight. >From ldsclerks: Please do not send copyrighted material to ldsclerks. See list info at: http://www.MormonsToday.com/ldsclerks/index.html Send commands in the body of a message to majordomo at MormonsToday.com To join: subscribe ldsclerks To leave: unsubscribe ldsclerks To join digest: subscribe ldsclerks-digest From nacc7 at yahoo.com Wed Aug 8 09:32:50 2007 From: nacc7 at yahoo.com (Mark Adams) Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2007 10:32:50 -0400 Subject: LDSC: Re: LDSC- Ward clerk and assistant stake clerk? In-Reply-To: <46B93F12.9040405@gmail.com> Message-ID: <532014.43114.qm@web33205.mail.mud.yahoo.com> >From LDSClerks: Please see bottom of this message for subscription instructions and list URL. I happen to be a ward clerk and also the Assistant Stake Clerk over Computers. I was installed as a ward clerk back in 1998 with a new Bishopric and then in 1999 the Stake asked me if I would be the Assistant Stake Clerk, I said I would do it as long as I could keep the Ward Clerk Calling. My reasoning for it, was to keep up to date with the software and that would enable me to be a better Assistant Stake Clerk over Computers. They were fine with it. Then a year ago, we got a new family history coordinator, and he was way too demanding, so I ask to be release from the computer responsibilities at the FHC. The Stake was cool with that. The new FHC coordinator had just retired from a management position at a local hospital and he was treating the volunteers as employees and that rub a lot of people wrong. I was not the only one asked to be release from the FHC. The Stake Calling is not that demanding as the Ward Clerk calling. We have someone for each building over the satellite transmissions setup. I guess one could say this stake really did not combine the satellite and the computers into one calling. Mark Adams Prescott, AZ Stake ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396545469 >From ldsclerks: Please do not send copyrighted material to ldsclerks. See list info at: http://www.MormonsToday.com/ldsclerks/index.html Send commands in the body of a message to majordomo at MormonsToday.com To join: subscribe ldsclerks To leave: unsubscribe ldsclerks To join digest: subscribe ldsclerks-digest From russellhltn at gmail.com Wed Aug 8 14:08:07 2007 From: russellhltn at gmail.com (Russell Hltn) Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2007 15:08:07 -0400 Subject: LDSC: Desktop 5.5 In-Reply-To: <000b01c7d9bd$46b82cb0$0100a8c0@Dell> References: <7378de6f0708072128g1c1a9583o264acef290482987@mail.gmail.com> <000b01c7d9bd$46b82cb0$0100a8c0@Dell> Message-ID: >From LDSClerks: Please see bottom of this message for subscription instructions and list URL. The most obvious change is when you power up the computer, a blue screen with a box in the upper left showing a couple of options will appear before the standard Windows startup screen. Also, the hard drive will be partitioned into C and D. (D driving holding some operating system backups.) You'll also have CutePDF" Writer 2.6, Picasa" 2.1.0, PhotoFiltre 6.1.2, Spybot  Search and Destroy 1.4, Symantec Client Security" 3.1, etc. On 8/8/07, Travis Morris wrote: > > As a ward clerk, how would I know if the stakeTS installed Desktop 5.5 on my > computer? > Travis > >From ldsclerks: Please do not send copyrighted material to ldsclerks. See list info at: http://www.MormonsToday.com/ldsclerks/index.html Send commands in the body of a message to majordomo at MormonsToday.com To join: subscribe ldsclerks To leave: unsubscribe ldsclerks To join digest: subscribe ldsclerks-digest From russellhltn at gmail.com Wed Aug 8 14:12:56 2007 From: russellhltn at gmail.com (Russell Hltn) Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2007 15:12:56 -0400 Subject: LDSC: Re: MLS 2.6 In-Reply-To: <46B96FA4.26719.17CAE1@rpyne.kinfolk.org> References: <4d7709f30708021224l17c9ab9dn5dd73f0961b3ad9d@mail.gmail.com>