From russellhltn at gmail.com  Sun Sep  2 01:03:14 2007
From: russellhltn at gmail.com (Russell Hltn)
Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2007 02:03:14 -0400
Subject: LDSC: Training Programs
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I forget which communication it was, but yes, you can buy speakers
from the local unit's funds.

I'd suggest the cheapest pair of amplified speakers you can find.
$10-15 should be adequate.


On 8/13/07, detbrik <tfkirby at aol.com> wrote:
>
>
> It is all well and good that the training lessons that used to be only
> on the Internet are now installed on the Ward/Branch Admin computer.
> However, they are not very useful when the standard computer
> configuration (at least I assume what we received was the standard
> configuration) does not have any speakers, not even an internal one.
>
> Are we now allowed to add hardware (and/or software) to our computers?
> I seem to recall this being forbidden in the past.
>
> --Ted Kirby
> Ward Clerk,
> Belle Haven Ward,
> Mount Vernon, VA Stake

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From russellhltn at gmail.com  Sun Sep  2 01:09:39 2007
From: russellhltn at gmail.com (Russell Hltn)
Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2007 02:09:39 -0400
Subject: LDSC: Who do I call to get a missing financial statement?
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1) Check with the Bishop (and/or past bishop).  Make sure he doesn't
have it somewhere as it's mailed to his home.

2) Lacking any better idea, call CHQ at the 1-800 number and enter
23500 for the extension, press 1 and wait.

3) Place instruction #2 somewhere where you can find it as needed -
you'll be doing that a lot.  <grin>


On 8/24/07, smilton1981 <milton_s at bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
>
> I have just been called to be our ward clerk so please excuse my lack
> of knowledge.  We are getting ready to do our semi-annual audit and
> noticed that we are missing our June financial statement.  Where would
> I need to go or who would I need to contact to get that sent again?
>
>

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From russellhltn at gmail.com  Sun Sep  2 01:13:11 2007
From: russellhltn at gmail.com (Russell Hltn)
Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2007 02:13:11 -0400
Subject: LDSC: Desktop 5.5 and HP "toolbox"
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Our stake has HP 1200 and 1300 printers.  Both of them come with a
program that allows the computer to see the status of the printer,
such as the toner status.  This all worked fine prior to installing
Desktop 5.5.  But since installing Desktop 5.5, I can't get it to work
- at least not for printers connected via the parallel cable.  The one
printer connected via USB is working fine.

I'm suspecting firewall issues and the Symantic firewall seems to be
locked down and not adjustable "in the field".

Anyone have any solutions?  Or even verification of the problem?

Thanks.

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From mark_werner at byu.edu  Sun Sep  2 02:29:19 2007
From: mark_werner at byu.edu (Mark Werner)
Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2007 03:29:19 -0400
Subject: LDSC: Who do I call to get a missing financial statement?
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References: <famkoc+6umb@eGroups.com> <a0a0e1510709012309m53ce3719xec558858696d48b0@mail.gmail.com>
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4) You can send a request through the MLS messaging system. We have done
that several times.

You should be aware that duplicate statements are now sent to the stake
president through the official Church e-mail system, so you should hope he's
monitoring his Church e-mail account.

Mark Werner

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1) Check with the Bishop (and/or past bishop).  Make sure he doesn't
have it somewhere as it's mailed to his home.

2) Lacking any better idea, call CHQ at the 1-800 number and enter
23500 for the extension, press 1 and wait.

3) Place instruction #2 somewhere where you can find it as needed -
you'll be doing that a lot.  <grin>


On 8/24/07, smilton1981 <milton_s at bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> I have just been called to be our ward clerk so please excuse my lack
> of knowledge.  We are getting ready to do our semi-annual audit and
> noticed that we are missing our June financial statement.  Where would
> I need to go or who would I need to contact to get that sent again?


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From mark_werner at byu.edu  Sun Sep  2 02:44:19 2007
From: mark_werner at byu.edu (Mark Werner)
Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2007 03:44:19 -0400
Subject: LDSC: Who do I call to get a missing financial statement?
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I almost forgot--if you phone, you should call the Finance Department
instead: extension 23496.

Mark Werner

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2) Lacking any better idea, call CHQ at the 1-800 number and enter
23500 for the extension, press 1 and wait.


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From bordenjr at knology.net  Sun Sep  2 05:15:28 2007
From: bordenjr at knology.net (Mitch Borden)
Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2007 06:15:28 -0400
Subject: LDSC: Churches and electronic donations
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At 01:10 AM 8/14/2007, you wrote:

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>
>
>That is OK for now when you have only two donors doing it.  We are
>already up to 5 or 6 donors.  If we continue to get more, we may get to
>the point where we are spending more time completing donation slips
>than entering donations into MLS.
>
>Not a prospect to which look forward.
>
>--Ted Kirby
>Ward Clerk,
>Belle Haven Ward,
>Mount Vernon, VA Stake
>
>--- In ldsclerks at yahoogroups.com, Mitch Borden <bordenjr at ...> wrote:

No, possibly not . . . but, on the other hand, you are enabling them 
to remain full tithe payers, and that can't be all bad.  What else do 
you have to do on a Sunday?  ;-)

Mitch Borden 


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From ldsskier at rusticate.net  Sun Sep  2 08:31:09 2007
From: ldsskier at rusticate.net (Skier)
Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2007 09:31:09 -0400
Subject: LDSC: Just an FYI, something we did in our stake
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As you are no doubt aware, stakes are supposed to record sessions of
conference and make the tapes available in the library.  Since people
these days are more likely to have DVD players than VCRs our stake
decided the time was right to start recording conference sessions to DVD.

Last year we purchased a DVR/DVD burner - the conference is recorded to
hard drive, then copies can quickly be edited (chapters, titles, etc)
and a copy burned for each ward library.  This particular machine holds
some 40 hours of recordings or so, allowing for past sessions to quickly
be re-burned if anybody requests for a copy.

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From ldsskier at rusticate.net  Sun Sep  2 08:33:35 2007
From: ldsskier at rusticate.net (Skier)
Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2007 09:33:35 -0400
Subject: LDSC: Pulling the trigger on new recommends
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Has anybody heard when the new recommend system is to go live for
everybody?  AFAIK all of the units now have the new books and the reader
is in place in the temple.


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From ldsskier at rusticate.net  Sun Sep  2 08:36:53 2007
From: ldsskier at rusticate.net (Skier)
Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2007 09:36:53 -0400
Subject: LDSC: setting up the bar code scanner?
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Arthur Smith wrote:

> In our stake we seem to have received the scanner with no
> instructions other than the page of bar codes that came in the box.
> It hasn't seemed obvious how to set it up to read in recommend
> bar-codes - at least, so far we've tried a number of things and none
> of them have worked. What have other people done? Have any of you
> received detailed instructions on setting up the scanner? Ours is a
> USB one from Symbol technologies, LS 2208 I think?

Plug it in and it should work.  There should have been some driver disks
that came in the box but I didn't need to use them.

Keep the calibration barcode sheet in a handy, hard to damage location
(I slid it under the glass on the desk).  For now, if you can make the
reader beep when you point at the calibration barcodes you're good to go.

Note that when the reader is in the stand the laser is -ALWAYS- on and
firing, make sure you align it so it won't zap anybody in the face.  The
trigger is relevant only when being used as a hand-held gun.

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From drepouille at hotmail.com  Sun Sep  2 10:03:37 2007
From: drepouille at hotmail.com (Dana Repouille)
Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2007 11:03:37 -0400
Subject: LDSC: Boot Sector Protection on Optiplex 740
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References: <BAY125-DAV154E1B10EDA183CB08AB48DAD20@phx.gbl> <4d7709f30708270649h7eb68e7dta6b1167ac42e3cfd@mail.gmail.com>
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Allen,
The re-imaging DOES work VERY WELL on the Dell 740 Optiplex. You just have
to boot from the first CD using an EXTERNAL CD/DVD drive, as I did in this
case. My mistake was leaving the USB flash drive plugged in. Therefore, the
imaging software tried to install the image on the USB flash drive instead
of the SATA hard drive.

The only things you need to download from mls.lds.org are the instructions
and drivers for the Optiplex 740. Well, you also have to download the
LANDesk update, the SAV update, the lessons, etc.

Dana in Omaha 

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-ldsclerks at MormonsToday.com
[mailto:owner-ldsclerks at MormonsToday.com] On Behalf Of allen dreher

It will not work on the Dell 740 Optiplex. You need to go to mls.lds.org and
get the download from there. You will need your unit number and the
password. I had the same issue. The 5.5 re-imaging will not work on the new
Dell 740 Optiplex. I had to call SLC regarding this.

Allen


On 8/26/07, Dana Repouille <drepouille at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> OK, I borrowed an external USB DVD drive, save off all the data, and 
> booted from the first CD of the Local Unit Computer Desktop 5.5 image 
> set.
>
> I pressed F1, F3, and F1 per the instructions.
>
> Error 58: Unable to access destination location (Description of Error #58:
> Unable to write to the boot sector. Virus protection software may be
> running.) Aborting due to previous error.
>
> NOW WHAT? I've looked at every setting in the BIOS Setup. Dell appears 
> to have removed the option to disable boot sector protection.
>
> GRRRRR. An evening wasted.
>
> Dana


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From drepouille at hotmail.com  Sun Sep  2 10:18:47 2007
From: drepouille at hotmail.com (Dana Repouille)
Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2007 11:18:47 -0400
Subject: LDSC: setting up the bar code scanner?
In-Reply-To: <98d3a3860708272121u4ca32a89w4d77549795445c69@mail.gmail.com>
References: <98d3a3860708272121u4ca32a89w4d77549795445c69@mail.gmail.com>
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Our scanner did come with a mini-CD, but I don't think I used it. Just plug
it in, and allow Windows XP to install the drives it already has. You may
need to reboot.

Remember that the scanner must either be triggered by hand, or set in the
stand to be "on" and scanning.

Also remember that the scanner works like an alternate keyboard. It sends
the characters to whichever application window has the focus. If you have
Notepad or Wordpad running and active, the text will appear in their
windows. You don't have to test it with temple recommends. You can use bar
codes from boxes and other labels.

If the scanner doesn't work, you can always manually type the ten-digit
recommend number into MLS.

Dana

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-ldsclerks at MormonsToday.com
[mailto:owner-ldsclerks at MormonsToday.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Smith

In our stake we seem to have received the scanner with no instructions other
than the page of bar codes that came in the box. It hasn't seemed obvious
how to set it up to read in recommend bar-codes - at least, so far we've
tried a number of things and none of them have worked. What have other
people done? Have any of you received detailed instructions on setting up
the scanner? Ours is a USB one from Symbol technologies, LS 2208 I think?

Any clues on this would be appreciated, thanks!


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From allen.dreher at gmail.com  Sun Sep  2 12:44:07 2007
From: allen.dreher at gmail.com (allen dreher)
Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2007 13:44:07 -0400
Subject: LDSC: Pulling the trigger on new recommends
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We've got the scanner at our stake already. We are beginning to read in
recommend numbers as far as I know.

Allen

On 9/2/07, Skier <ldsskier at rusticate.net> wrote:
>
> Has anybody heard when the new recommend system is to go live for
> everybody?  AFAIK all of the units now have the new books and the reader
> is in place in the temple.
>
>

-- 
Allen Dreher

"At some deep level, consciously or unconsciously, you have to want to be
joyful."
- Thomas Kinkade


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From allen.dreher at gmail.com  Sun Sep  2 12:47:15 2007
From: allen.dreher at gmail.com (allen dreher)
Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2007 13:47:15 -0400
Subject: LDSC: Boot Sector Protection on Optiplex 740
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I was referring to a Dell 740 Optiplex already in use. This was just my
experience that I went through. I could have probably done it a better way,
however, I am not a tech dude. I was OJT while doing this.

Alle

On 9/2/07, Dana Repouille <drepouille at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Allen,
> The re-imaging DOES work VERY WELL on the Dell 740 Optiplex. You just have
> to boot from the first CD using an EXTERNAL CD/DVD drive, as I did in this
> case. My mistake was leaving the USB flash drive plugged in. Therefore,
> the
> imaging software tried to install the image on the USB flash drive instead
> of the SATA hard drive.
>
> The only things you need to download from mls.lds.org are the instructions
> and drivers for the Optiplex 740. Well, you also have to download the
> LANDesk update, the SAV update, the lessons, etc.
>
> Dana in Omaha
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-ldsclerks at MormonsToday.com
> [mailto:owner-ldsclerks at MormonsToday.com] On Behalf Of allen dreher
>
> It will not work on the Dell 740 Optiplex. You need to go to mls.lds.organd
> get the download from there. You will need your unit number and the
> password. I had the same issue. The 5.5 re-imaging will not work on the
> new
> Dell 740 Optiplex. I had to call SLC regarding this.
>
> Allen
>
>
> On 8/26/07, Dana Repouille <drepouille at hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > OK, I borrowed an external USB DVD drive, save off all the data, and
> > booted from the first CD of the Local Unit Computer Desktop 5.5 image
> > set.
> >
> > I pressed F1, F3, and F1 per the instructions.
> >
> > Error 58: Unable to access destination location (Description of Error
> #58:
> > Unable to write to the boot sector. Virus protection software may be
> > running.) Aborting due to previous error.
> >
> > NOW WHAT? I've looked at every setting in the BIOS Setup. Dell appears
> > to have removed the option to disable boot sector protection.
> >
> > GRRRRR. An evening wasted.
> >
> > Dana
>

-- 
Allen Dreher

"At some deep level, consciously or unconsciously, you have to want to be
joyful."
- Thomas Kinkade


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From russellhltn at gmail.com  Sun Sep  2 14:50:54 2007
From: russellhltn at gmail.com (Russell Hltn)
Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2007 15:50:54 -0400
Subject: LDSC: Pulling the trigger on new recommends
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References: <4d7709f30708210950n5c872c4agd9a7024a09d8f36a@mail.gmail.com>
	 <46DABBAF.2000607@rusticate.net>
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Different temple districts have different "go live" dates.

As for when all temples will be on-line with this - I don't know.


On 9/2/07, Skier <ldsskier at rusticate.net> wrote:
>
>
> Has anybody heard when the new recommend system is to go live for
> everybody?  AFAIK all of the units now have the new books and the reader
> is in place in the temple.
>

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From russellhltn at gmail.com  Sun Sep  2 14:53:29 2007
From: russellhltn at gmail.com (Russell Hltn)
Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2007 15:53:29 -0400
Subject: LDSC: Just an FYI, something we did in our stake
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References: <46DABB1D.2000409@rusticate.net>
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> Last year we purchased a DVR/DVD burner - the conference is recorded to
> hard drive, then copies can quickly be edited (chapters, titles, etc)
> and a copy burned for each ward library.

Is this the Polaroid unit sold by Wal-Mart?

> As you are no doubt aware, stakes are supposed to record sessions of
> conference and make the tapes available in the library.

I know that stakes MAY record it and place it in the  library.  Can
you cite me a source for "supposed to"?

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From Steve.Neeland at ingrambook.com  Sun Sep  2 15:14:25 2007
From: Steve.Neeland at ingrambook.com (Neeland, Steve)
Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2007 16:14:25 -0400
Subject: LDSC: Just an FYI, something we did in our stake
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I'm curious what brand/model of DVD burner you bought and what editing
software.  We have had requests to copy some older VHS videos to DVD and
use the chapter features to index to the start of those sections, such
as the Family Home Evening videos.  The DVD burner I have defaults to
chapter markers every 5 minutes.  The chaptering feature would also be
great to mark the beginning of each conference speaker.

Thanks.
Steve
 

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As you are no doubt aware, stakes are supposed to record sessions of
conference and make the tapes available in the library.  Since people
these days are more likely to have DVD players than VCRs our stake
decided the time was right to start recording conference sessions to
DVD.

Last year we purchased a DVR/DVD burner - the conference is recorded to
hard drive, then copies can quickly be edited (chapters, titles, etc)
and a copy burned for each ward library.  This particular machine holds
some 40 hours of recordings or so, allowing for past sessions to quickly
be re-burned if anybody requests for a copy.


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From ldsskier at rusticate.net  Sun Sep  2 15:38:28 2007
From: ldsskier at rusticate.net (Skier)
Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2007 16:38:28 -0400
Subject: LDSC: Just an FYI, something we did in our stake
In-Reply-To: <a0a0e1510709021253n481a0207n4f4719fd76a1d3b4@mail.gmail.com>
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Russell Hltn wrote:

> Is this the Polaroid unit sold by Wal-Mart?

No... Toshiba model.

>> As you are no doubt aware, stakes are supposed to record sessions
>> of conference and make the tapes available in the library.
> 
> I know that stakes MAY record it and place it in the  library.  Can 
> you cite me a source for "supposed to"?


I may be recalling the verbiage incorrectly, but I'm pretty sure that
recording conference (and other sessions) and making copies available in
the ward libraries is on the "should" list.

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From lajacksn at gmail.com  Sun Sep  2 15:40:16 2007
From: lajacksn at gmail.com (Larry Jackson)
Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2007 16:40:16 -0400
Subject: LDSC: Re: setting up the bar code scanner?
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Arthur Smith:

received the scanner with no instructions

_______________

The scanner setup instructions are in the Stake Instructions for 
Activating Temple Recommends.

Basically, you plug in the scanner to a USB port, then scan a set of 
codes that are in the stake instructions.  That sets up the scanner, and 
you are ready to go.

If you cannot find the instructions, go to MLS, click on the Help menu 
and select Print Bar Code Scanner Setup File.

Six clicks of the scanner later you will be set.

Larry Jackson


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From lajacksn at gmail.com  Sun Sep  2 15:44:46 2007
From: lajacksn at gmail.com (Larry Jackson)
Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2007 16:44:46 -0400
Subject: LDSC: Re: Temple Recommend Activation Report
In-Reply-To: <f9vj9v+dpt2@eGroups.com>
References: <f9vj9v+dpt2@eGroups.com>
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Mitch Borden:

"Print the Temple Recommend Activation Report"
"Insufficient rights to view information"

_______________

The instructions that came with the recommend books will tell you what 
to do.

The bishop will designate who will have access (normally counselors, 
clerk, and executive secretary only) and an Admin will activate the 
permissions in MLS.  Then you will be able to print the report.

Larry Jackson


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From drepouille at hotmail.com  Sun Sep  2 15:47:38 2007
From: drepouille at hotmail.com (Dana Repouille)
Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2007 16:47:38 -0400
Subject: LDSC: Just an FYI, something we did in our stake
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IIRC, our stake received a complete copy of the last GC on DVD. I don't
think we even asked for one.

General Conference, April 2007. 3 DVDs  
Item #: 02359000  
$7.00 USD  
  These DVD-Video/ROMs feature the full proceedings of general conference in
English. Closed captioning and English subtitles. 

Dana
 

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> As you are no doubt aware, stakes are supposed to record sessions of 
> conference and make the tapes available in the library.

I know that stakes MAY record it and place it in the  library.  Can you cite
me a source for "supposed to"?


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From lajacksn at gmail.com  Sun Sep  2 15:52:08 2007
From: lajacksn at gmail.com (Larry Jackson)
Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2007 16:52:08 -0400
Subject: LDSC: Who do I call to get a missing financial statement?
In-Reply-To: <famkoc+6umb@eGroups.com>
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smilton1981:

we are missing our June financial statement.

_______________

As others have said, first check the office, the bishop, and the former 
clerk, as appropriate.

Then, the quickest way is to send an MLS message to Church Finance 
asking that a duplicate June 2007 financial statement be sent to the 
stake president at his Church e-mail account.

We sent a message this past Wednesday evening, and the stake president 
had the report on Friday.

It would not hurt to let the stake president know the report is coming, 
especially since the audits were supposed to be completed by the end of 
August and the auditor is probably cutting you some slack by now.  [grin]

Larry Jackson


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From lajacksn at gmail.com  Sun Sep  2 15:57:00 2007
From: lajacksn at gmail.com (Larry Jackson)
Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2007 16:57:00 -0400
Subject: LDSC: Re: setting up the bar code scanner?
In-Reply-To: <46DABC75.3030508@rusticate.net>
References: <98d3a3860708272121u4ca32a89w4d77549795445c69@mail.gmail.com> <46DABC75.3030508@rusticate.net>
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Skier:

Note that when the reader is in the stand the laser is -ALWAYS- on and 
firing, make sure you align it so it won't zap anybody in the face.  The 
trigger is relevant only when being used as a hand-held gun.

_______________

We noticed this, so we set the scanner beside the stand unless we are 
actually activating recommends.  When there are recommends to scan, we 
put it on the stand and go for it.

Larry Jackson


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From lajacksn at gmail.com  Sun Sep  2 16:11:57 2007
From: lajacksn at gmail.com (Larry Jackson)
Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2007 17:11:57 -0400
Subject: LDSC: Re: Satellite Systems
In-Reply-To: <fef0c250708181458r74813bb5j5e8a724237d9c139@mail.gmail.com>
References: <fef0c250708181458r74813bb5j5e8a724237d9c139@mail.gmail.com>
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Skip Taylor:

What are you seeing as a flash code?

_______________

Nine reds.

Odd that your post just showed up today.  I guess that happens sometimes.

It turned out in this case that the receiver just needed to be rebooted. 
  We did not have the key to do it, and FM was miffed that they had to 
drive two hours to unlock the box and do it for us.

I told them there was no need to be miffed.  Just either leave a key or 
plan to make the drive.  Their option.  I'm easy that way.

On the other hand, the last time we had nine reds, they took the box 
away and it was replaced six months later.

Those were not happy days, except for the Saints in South America who 
were getting new satellite dishes at the time, which is why the only 
supplier in the nation could not find a replacement box for us (and 
others in the US).

I heard the Church was looking for another supplier, but I do not know 
if they found one, since the specs for their custom receiver are unique.

Larry Jackson


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From drepouille at hotmail.com  Sun Sep  2 18:15:59 2007
From: drepouille at hotmail.com (Dana Repouille)
Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2007 19:15:59 -0400
Subject: LDSC: Boot Sector Protection on Optiplex 740
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References: <BAY125-DAV15DB40F0AAFF132B512487DAC80@phx.gbl> <4d7709f30709021047r2c7eb17bpf31f7a4f0ac05e2d@mail.gmail.com>
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So was I. We received a 740 for a new unit back in July. I was surprised
that it had a factory image rather than a church image. I decided to put it
into service as is, and apply the church image later, when I had more time
and knowledge. I had to find an external DVD drive to borrow, and I had to
download the 740 drivers and instructions.

Dana 

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I was referring to a Dell 740 Optiplex already in use. This was just my
experience that I went through. I could have probably done it a better way,
however, I am not a tech dude. I was OJT while doing this.

Alle


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From klarsen at MormonsToday.com  Sun Sep  2 19:12:52 2007
From: klarsen at MormonsToday.com (Kent S. Larsen II)
Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2007 20:12:52 -0400
Subject: LDSC: Some Messages delayed & Monthly Reminder of LDSClerks List
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From sbsimps at msn.com  Sun Sep  2 19:44:17 2007
From: sbsimps at msn.com (Shaun Simpson)
Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2007 20:44:17 -0400
Subject: LDSC: Training Programs
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Instead of using speakers for the training, another little know option is to
use the Notes control.  This is activated or displayed via the control in
the bottom left hand corner next to the sound control.  When you turn this
on, the training screen shrinks and a notes, thumbnail, and search option
become available.  The notes tab allows the training to be read and viewed
without sound or speakers.

Besides the notes tab, I also like the Thumbnail control since at times I
remember a specific item was in the training, but I don't remember exactly
where.  Using this control or the search you can find the exact slide you
want without going through the whole training again.

You may also notice the version that is loaded via the CD (not available
online on the website) has a PDF version next to each module.  Using this,
the training is available to be printed.  This allows it to be used again
without have to view the lesson sequentially.

I appreciate all the options we have been given to train clerks and leaders.
These training options certainly have increased the quality of the training
and lets clerks and members do it when they have time.  I have used these
lessons for stake clerk training and also had many clerks and members take
them on their own.

Shaun Simpson


-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:owner-ldsclerks at MormonsToday.com] On Behalf Of detbrik
Sent: Monday, August 13, 2007 9:56 PM
To: ldsclerks at MormonsToday.com
Cc: detbrik
Subject: LDSC: Training Programs

It is all well and good that the training lessons that used to be only
on the Internet are now installed on the Ward/Branch Admin computer.
However, they are not very useful when the standard computer
configuration (at least I assume what we received was the standard
configuration) does not have any speakers, not even an internal one.

Are we now allowed to add hardware (and/or software) to our computers?
I seem to recall this being forbidden in the past.

--Ted Kirby
Ward Clerk,
Belle Haven Ward,
Mount Vernon, VA Stake



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From abeebe at tc3net.com  Sun Sep  2 20:09:03 2007
From: abeebe at tc3net.com (paulbb1)
Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2007 21:09:03 -0400
Subject: LDSC: MLS 2.6 & Internet - Print message for update
Message-ID: <fbfmrf+vkcv@eGroups.com>


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We sent our first Membership communications via the internet. All
seemed to go well. When they send a new membership record the print a
list of the record. This time it sent a record and presented a message
to print. Once clicked the printing failed and a message stated
something about updating some printer utility. This was per the asst
membership clerk. 

Does anyone know what they are referring to?
Is it necessary to warn or get permission to transmit via internet?

Arlan Beebe
Ann Arbor Stake



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From allen.dreher at gmail.com  Sun Sep  2 20:48:37 2007
From: allen.dreher at gmail.com (allen dreher)
Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2007 21:48:37 -0400
Subject: LDSC: Boot Sector Protection on Optiplex 740
In-Reply-To: <BAY125-DAV12200AC891149CF5BA7A54DAC80@phx.gbl>
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When I was going through the instructions I found that they were a bit
unclear to me. I don't know if that has happened with you. I was hoping that
the new Dells would have already come with the new desktop re-imaging. No
such luck. So far ours seems to work. I have 2 more units to go through. One
is just like ours, the new Dell 740s, and the other one is the previous
version of Dell. That one took the re-imaging w/o any heartburn. The 740 did
not take the 5.5 boot disk at all. I followed the F1, F2, F1 prompts, but it
wouldn't take. That's when I discovered the instructions and downloads for
the 740s already in use.

Have you loaded all of the "Packages" that it says we can have on the unit
computer's desktop? I only loaded the PDF, Open Office, and I think one
other. I didn't see the need for the Picasa or any of the other ones. I'm
not quite sure where that would be needed.

Allen
Ward Clerk
San Antonio First Ward

On 9/2/07, Dana Repouille <drepouille at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> So was I. We received a 740 for a new unit back in July. I was surprised
> that it had a factory image rather than a church image. I decided to put
> it
> into service as is, and apply the church image later, when I had more time
> and knowledge. I had to find an external DVD drive to borrow, and I had to
> download the 740 drivers and instructions.
>
> Dana
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-ldsclerks at MormonsToday.com
> [mailto:owner-ldsclerks at MormonsToday.com] On Behalf Of allen dreher
>
> I was referring to a Dell 740 Optiplex already in use. This was just my
> experience that I went through. I could have probably done it a better
> way,
> however, I am not a tech dude. I was OJT while doing this.
>
> Alle
>

-- 
Allen Dreher

"At some deep level, consciously or unconsciously, you have to want to be
joyful."
- Thomas Kinkade


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From ldsskier at rusticate.net  Sun Sep  2 20:48:45 2007
From: ldsskier at rusticate.net (Skier)
Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2007 21:48:45 -0400
Subject: LDSC: Just an FYI, something we did in our stake
In-Reply-To: <34D00262650E7645A20A26B937C2139F139AC0@IBC2K3EXCH.ingrambook.com>
References: <34D00262650E7645A20A26B937C2139F139AC0@IBC2K3EXCH.ingrambook.com>
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Neeland, Steve wrote:

> I'm curious what brand/model of DVD burner you bought

Some Toshiba model... I can dig it up if you like.

> and what editing software.

None whatsoever.  Everything is built into the machine.

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From ldsskier at rusticate.net  Sun Sep  2 20:50:18 2007
From: ldsskier at rusticate.net (Skier)
Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2007 21:50:18 -0400
Subject: LDSC: Re: Satellite Systems
In-Reply-To: <46DB271D.7020503@gmail.com>
References: <fef0c250708181458r74813bb5j5e8a724237d9c139@mail.gmail.com> <46DB271D.7020503@gmail.com>
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Larry Jackson wrote:

> It turned out in this case that the receiver just needed to be rebooted.
>  We did not have the key to do it, and FM was miffed that they had to
> drive two hours to unlock the box and do it for us.

Pulling plug not an option?

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From bordenjr at knology.net  Sun Sep  2 21:06:00 2007
From: bordenjr at knology.net (Mitch Borden)
Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2007 22:06:00 -0400
Subject: LDSC: Re: Temple Recommend Activation Report
In-Reply-To: <46DB20BE.9060504@gmail.com>
References: <f9vj9v+dpt2@eGroups.com>
 <46DB20BE.9060504@gmail.com>
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At 04:44 PM 9/2/2007, you wrote:

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>Mitch Borden:
>
>"Print the Temple Recommend Activation Report"
>"Insufficient rights to view information"
>
>_______________
>
>The instructions that came with the recommend books will tell you what to do.
>
>The bishop will designate who will have access (normally counselors, 
>clerk, and executive secretary only) and an Admin will activate the 
>permissions in MLS.  Then you will be able to print the report.
>
>Larry Jackson

The solution was offered earlier;  someone (I don't recall who -- 
sorry for not giving you credit for it) said all I had to do was to 
go in and re-authorize myself to have the correct "rights" -- worked 
like a charm.

On another matter -- despite having done at least a dozen S/R since 
the new Desktop 5.5 and Version 2.6 was installed on our computer 
last week, the "New Member Report" -- which previously listed a dozen 
people -- is all of a sudden blank, and I get a message informing me 
that there are no members present.  Has anyone else run into this 
problem?  I don't recall seeing any other messages on the subject . . .

Mitch Borden 


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From bowerm at ix.netcom.com  Sun Sep  2 21:08:18 2007
From: bowerm at ix.netcom.com (Michael Bower)
Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2007 22:08:18 -0400
Subject: LDSC: Pulling the trigger on new recommends
In-Reply-To: <4d7709f30709021044o35e739dh39e65f242a217702@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4d7709f30709021044o35e739dh39e65f242a217702@mail.gmail.com>
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We did about 100 in our building day (Stake Office) and in most cases 
they went in fine.  The biggest problem we had was incorrect member 
numbers.  In some cases, they just turned some digits around so I was 
able to correct.  In a few cases, they had the number totally wrong 
(either picked up the wrong line when writing it down (in one case the 
mother had the daughter's number) or they got the spouses number (that 
happened 3-4 times).  Except for one case late in the day (and SP had 
already left), we were able to fix all of them.  I then did a 
Send/Receive to send it to SLC.

The input system is not geared for batch (large volumes) of activation 
but we should only go through this during the cutover.

We didn't have to do anything to the system other than installing MLS 
2.6.  OS recognized the scanner immediately.

Cool stuff.  It works.



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> 
> We've got the scanner at our stake already. We are beginning to read in
> recommend numbers as far as I know.
> 
> Allen
> 
> On 9/2/07, Skier <ldsskier at rusticate.net> wrote:
>> Has anybody heard when the new recommend system is to go live for
>> everybody?  AFAIK all of the units now have the new books and the reader
>> is in place in the temple.
>>
>>
> 

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From lajacksn at gmail.com  Sun Sep  2 22:11:50 2007
From: lajacksn at gmail.com (Larry Jackson)
Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2007 23:11:50 -0400
Subject: LDSC: Re: Satellite Systems
In-Reply-To: <46DB685A.2000603@rusticate.net>
References: <fef0c250708181458r74813bb5j5e8a724237d9c139@mail.gmail.com> <46DB271D.7020503@gmail.com> <46DB685A.2000603@rusticate.net>
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Skier:

Pulling plug not an option?

_______________

No.  The power cord and receptacles are in the box itself.  The only 
thing going in to the box is the coax from the dish, and the only thing 
going out of the box is the coax to the distribution points.

One option would have been to try to figure out which circuit breaker 
the system is on, but we did not have keys to the circuit breaker 
panels, either, and there are seven of them, so it was not worth the 
trouble.

Those who had come to see the broadcast were sent home and asked to 
watch it on the internet.

With the usual apologies, of course.

Larry Jackson


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From lajacksn at gmail.com  Sun Sep  2 22:19:17 2007
From: lajacksn at gmail.com (Larry Jackson)
Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2007 23:19:17 -0400
Subject: LDSC: Re: Temple Recommend Activation Report
In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20070902220244.039f07e0@knology.net>
References: <f9vj9v+dpt2@eGroups.com> <46DB20BE.9060504@gmail.com> <7.0.1.0.2.20070902220244.039f07e0@knology.net>
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Mitch Borden:

. . . the "New Member Report" -- which previously listed a dozen people 
-- is all of a sudden blank, and I get a message informing me that there 
are no members present.  Has anyone else run into this problem?  I don't 
recall seeing any other messages on the subject . . .

_______________

At some point after MLS 2.6 is loaded, this report goes blank.  Another 
S/R after a conversion cycle at Hq will solve the matter and you will be 
back in business.

This has happened to all of our units.  It has something to do with the 
way the data is reset in SL when you move from 2.4 to 2.6, although I do 
not understand it exactly.

When this was mentioned earlier, it was said (sorry, I don't remember 
who either) that there were some other things that acted this same way, 
but they came back as well.

Larry Jackson



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From avskip at gmail.com  Sun Sep  2 23:27:24 2007
From: avskip at gmail.com (Skip Taylor)
Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 00:27:24 -0400
Subject: LDSC: Just an FYI, something we did in our stake
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On 9/2/07, Russell Hltn <russellhltn at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Last year we purchased a DVR/DVD burner - the conference is recorded to
> > hard drive, then copies can quickly be edited (chapters, titles, etc)
> > and a copy burned for each ward library.
>
> Is this the Polaroid unit sold by Wal-Mart?

I had our Stake purchase the Philips DVDR3575H/37 model. It's a 160gb
drive along with digital tuner etc..etc... I think it was like $298 or
so. I also had them get the extended warranty as Walmart's ext.
warranty is, IMNSHO, exceptional in wording at least.

It seems a pretty decent unit, but it's the first one I've ever used.
Now I"m trying to figure out how I want to label the DVDs that I burn
so we can identify them.  Does anyone have a suggestion on labeling
the discs?

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From avskip at gmail.com  Sun Sep  2 23:39:48 2007
From: avskip at gmail.com (Skip Taylor)
Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 00:39:48 -0400
Subject: LDSC: Re: Satellite Systems
In-Reply-To: <46DB271D.7020503@gmail.com>
References: <fef0c250708181458r74813bb5j5e8a724237d9c139@mail.gmail.com>
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On 9/2/07, Larry Jackson <lajacksn at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Odd that your post just showed up today.  I guess that happens sometimes.

What I didn't realize (read it when I signed up but forgot it) is that
Gmail uses HTML as a default. This list holds all HTML mail until the
moderator releases it. So these I'm forcing to text only mode. I'll
figure it out eventually.

> It turned out in this case that the receiver just needed to be rebooted.
>  We did not have the key to do it, and FM was miffed that they had to
> drive two hours to unlock the box and do it for us.
>
> I told them there was no need to be miffed.  Just either leave a key or
> plan to make the drive.  Their option.  I'm easy that way.

I guess I'm lucky, mine is in a rack with two screws to open it. There
is another rack with a cover and lock where the transmitters/audio
amplifiers are but they won't let me have a key to that. Something
about the vendors not liking it. :)  So they have to pay for a vendor
visit everytime a knob needs to be turned. {frown}

Our Ch 6 RF modulator (transmits the Spanish audio channel) went to
hum bars and almost pure hum on the audio. I told them this wasn't
acceptable, and they finally replaced it but it took what seemed
forever (4 months?). I think the problem was caused by the heat in the
closet. The sat rcvr was right under it and the rcvr gets so hot you
can hardly touch it. Now if I can get them to cool the satellite
closet the equipment will feel better and I won't pour sweat when I'm
in there.

Skip

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From bordenjr at knology.net  Mon Sep  3 05:41:45 2007
From: bordenjr at knology.net (Mitch Borden)
Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 06:41:45 -0400
Subject: LDSC: Re: Satellite Systems
In-Reply-To: <fef0c250709022139k67e1764aob49582cdaf62c297@mail.gmail.com
 >
References: <fef0c250708181458r74813bb5j5e8a724237d9c139@mail.gmail.com>
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At 12:39 AM 9/3/2007, you wrote:

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>On 9/2/07, Larry Jackson <lajacksn at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Odd that your post just showed up today.  I guess that happens sometimes.
>
>What I didn't realize (read it when I signed up but forgot it) is that
>Gmail uses HTML as a default. This list holds all HTML mail until the
>moderator releases it. So these I'm forcing to text only mode. I'll
>figure it out eventually.
>
> > It turned out in this case that the receiver just needed to be rebooted.
> >  We did not have the key to do it, and FM was miffed that they had to
> > drive two hours to unlock the box and do it for us.
> >
> > I told them there was no need to be miffed.  Just either leave a key or
> > plan to make the drive.  Their option.  I'm easy that way.
>
>I guess I'm lucky, mine is in a rack with two screws to open it. There
>is another rack with a cover and lock where the transmitters/audio
>amplifiers are but they won't let me have a key to that. Something
>about the vendors not liking it. :)  So they have to pay for a vendor
>visit everytime a knob needs to be turned. {frown}
>
>Our Ch 6 RF modulator (transmits the Spanish audio channel) went to
>hum bars and almost pure hum on the audio. I told them this wasn't
>acceptable, and they finally replaced it but it took what seemed
>forever (4 months?). I think the problem was caused by the heat in the
>closet. The sat rcvr was right under it and the rcvr gets so hot you
>can hardly touch it. Now if I can get them to cool the satellite
>closet the equipment will feel better and I won't pour sweat when I'm
>in there.
>
>Skip

We used to have the same problem, Skip -- the FM Group Manager 
finally just removed the sound system cabinet door and since then we 
haven't had a problem -- at least not with overheating.

Mitch Borden 


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From bordenjr at knology.net  Mon Sep  3 05:43:53 2007
From: bordenjr at knology.net (Mitch Borden)
Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 06:43:53 -0400
Subject: LDSC: Re: Temple Recommend Activation Report
In-Reply-To: <46DB7D35.7050103@gmail.com>
References: <f9vj9v+dpt2@eGroups.com>
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At 11:19 PM 9/2/2007, you wrote:

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>
>Mitch Borden:
>
>. . . the "New Member Report" -- which previously listed a dozen 
>people -- is all of a sudden blank, and I get a message informing me 
>that there are no members present.  Has anyone else run into this 
>problem?  I don't recall seeing any other messages on the subject . . .
>
>_______________
>
>At some point after MLS 2.6 is loaded, this report goes 
>blank.  Another S/R after a conversion cycle at Hq will solve the 
>matter and you will be back in business.
>
>This has happened to all of our units.  It has something to do with 
>the way the data is reset in SL when you move from 2.4 to 2.6, 
>although I do not understand it exactly.
>
>When this was mentioned earlier, it was said (sorry, I don't 
>remember who either) that there were some other things that acted 
>this same way, but they came back as well.
>
>Larry Jackson

Well, as I said earlier, I've done at least a dozen S/R cycles since 
the conversion, including 5 Sunday -- but I'll be in the vicinity 
again today so I'l go by and try it again.

Mitch Borden 


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From russellhltn at gmail.com  Mon Sep  3 05:58:13 2007
From: russellhltn at gmail.com (Russell Hltn)
Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 06:58:13 -0400
Subject: LDSC: MLS 2.6 & Internet - Print message for update
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I suspect it's unrelated.  It sounds to me like you have a problem
printing from within MLS.  I know in the past there's been a complaint
that you only have one shot at printing those messages.  If the
printer jams or something like that, you can't re-print.

Now, it's possible the printer utilities have discovered that you have
an Internet connection and are no begging to be updated.

As far as permission, as long as you are using Desktop 5.5 and a
Church Network, you should be OK.

On 9/2/07, paulbb1 <abeebe at tc3net.com> wrote:
>
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> We sent our first Membership communications via the internet. All
> seemed to go well. When they send a new membership record the print a
> list of the record. This time it sent a record and presented a message
> to print. Once clicked the printing failed and a message stated
> something about updating some printer utility. This was per the asst
> membership clerk.
>
> Does anyone know what they are referring to?
> Is it necessary to warn or get permission to transmit via internet?
>
> Arlan Beebe
> Ann Arbor Stake
>

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From drepouille at hotmail.com  Mon Sep  3 06:07:13 2007
From: drepouille at hotmail.com (Dana Repouille)
Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 07:07:13 -0400
Subject: LDSC: Re: Satellite Systems
In-Reply-To: <46DB7B76.9030900@gmail.com>
References: <fef0c250708181458r74813bb5j5e8a724237d9c139@mail.gmail.com> <46DB271D.7020503@gmail.com> <46DB685A.2000603@rusticate.net> <46DB7B76.9030900@gmail.com>
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I thought we had the same problem a few months ago. I called the HQ phone
number posted on the cabinet, but there was no answer. I called one of our
local friendly FM workers, and told him I couldn't find a power switch
inside the satellite cabinet. He told me to turn around, open the breaker
box, and recycle the power to the satellite cabinet using the clearly marked
breaker. I saw the lock on the break box door, and my heart sank. Luckily,
they had left it unlocked for just such an occasion.

Dana

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-ldsclerks at MormonsToday.com
[mailto:owner-ldsclerks at MormonsToday.com] On Behalf Of Larry Jackson

No.  The power cord and receptacles are in the box itself.  The only thing
going in to the box is the coax from the dish, and the only thing going out
of the box is the coax to the distribution points.

One option would have been to try to figure out which circuit breaker the
system is on, but we did not have keys to the circuit breaker panels,
either, and there are seven of them, so it was not worth the trouble.

Those who had come to see the broadcast were sent home and asked to watch it
on the internet.

With the usual apologies, of course.

Larry Jackson


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From russellhltn at gmail.com  Mon Sep  3 06:15:23 2007
From: russellhltn at gmail.com (Russell Hltn)
Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 07:15:23 -0400
Subject: LDSC: Just an FYI, something we did in our stake
In-Reply-To: <fef0c250709022127j5f8037dco338e0c32f1c2a757@mail.gmail.com>
References: <46DABB1D.2000409@rusticate.net>
	 <a0a0e1510709021253n481a0207n4f4719fd76a1d3b4@mail.gmail.com>
	 <fef0c250709022127j5f8037dco338e0c32f1c2a757@mail.gmail.com>
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There's 3 basic technologies I know of:

1) Stick-on lables
2) Ink-Jet printers
3) LightScribe

Sick on labels are simple, but there's some concern that that label
might come off.  With CDs there's concern the glue might get to the
data layer and damage it, but I don't think that's an issue with DVD
since DVD is a "sandwich" with the data layer between two plastic
slabs.

Inkjet printer can be more colorful.  I've seen some low-end Epson
printers that can print right on the CD/DVD.  However, you'll need to
buy the blanks with the white surface for printing.

I don't know if LightScribe is available for DVD.  It's using the
burner to burn a image into the top layer.  However, you'd have to buy
a LightScribe drive and use LightScribe media.  Probably the most
expensive option.

I guess there's really a 4th: Felt-tip pen, such as a Sharpie. :D

Take your pick.



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>
> Now I"m trying to figure out how I want to label the DVDs that I burn
> so we can identify them.  Does anyone have a suggestion on labeling
> the discs?
>

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From ktxstake at hot.rr.com  Mon Sep  3 06:41:54 2007
From: ktxstake at hot.rr.com (David Gibson)
Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 07:41:54 -0400
Subject: LDSC: CD/DVD Labels
References: <46DABB1D.2000409@rusticate.net> <a0a0e1510709021253n481a0207n4f4719fd76a1d3b4@mail.gmail.com> <fef0c250709022127j5f8037dco338e0c32f1c2a757@mail.gmail.com>
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Get a CD/DVD Label Kit from a "big box" office supplies store or on-line. 
It contains software, labels, and a slick applicator that gives you 
professional-looking labels from your printer.
DavidG


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To: <ldsclerks at MormonsToday.com>
Cc: "Skip Taylor" <avskip at gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 11:27 PM
Subject: Re: LDSC: Just an FYI, something we did in our stake


> ... Now I"m trying to figure out how I want to label the DVDs that I burn
> so we can identify them.  Does anyone have a suggestion on labeling
> the discs?
>


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From avskip at gmail.com  Mon Sep  3 08:48:07 2007
From: avskip at gmail.com (Skip Taylor)
Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 09:48:07 -0400
Subject: LDSC: Just an FYI, something we did in our stake
In-Reply-To: <a0a0e1510709030415u6950867ata60be8be076aa908@mail.gmail.com>
References: <46DABB1D.2000409@rusticate.net>
	 <a0a0e1510709021253n481a0207n4f4719fd76a1d3b4@mail.gmail.com>
	 <fef0c250709022127j5f8037dco338e0c32f1c2a757@mail.gmail.com>
	 <a0a0e1510709030415u6950867ata60be8be076aa908@mail.gmail.com>
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On 9/3/07, Russell Hltn <russellhltn at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> There's 3 basic technologies I know of:
>
> 1) Stick-on lables
> 2) Ink-Jet printers
> 3) LightScribe
>
> Sick on labels are simple, but there's some concern that that label
> might come off.  With CDs there's concern the glue might get to the
> data layer and damage it, but I don't think that's an issue with DVD
> since DVD is a "sandwich" with the data layer between two plastic
> slabs.

I'll investigate this one further. It sounds the best option for us.

> Inkjet printer can be more colorful.  I've seen some low-end Epson
> printers that can print right on the CD/DVD.  However, you'll need to
> buy the blanks with the white surface for printing.

This might be the second option for us. It seems I  had looked at some
Epson printers for that a while back.

> I don't know if LightScribe is available for DVD.  It's using the
> burner to burn a image into the top layer.  However, you'd have to buy
> a LightScribe drive and use LightScribe media.  Probably the most
> expensive option.

I doubt we'll use this one.

> I guess there's really a 4th: Felt-tip pen, such as a Sharpie. :D

HAHAHA!! With my writing they'll think they've found some form of
ancient hieroglyphics and will know they have found a new
civilization. They'll never figure out what it means though. (huge
grin)

> Take your pick.
>
>
>
> On 9/2/07, Skip Taylor <avskip at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Now I"m trying to figure out how I want to label the DVDs that I burn
> > so we can identify them.  Does anyone have a suggestion on labeling
> > the discs?

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From avskip at gmail.com  Mon Sep  3 08:49:26 2007
From: avskip at gmail.com (Skip Taylor)
Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 09:49:26 -0400
Subject: LDSC: CD/DVD Labels
In-Reply-To: <000901c7ee1f$6dc0b090$f2c51a18@gibsondell>
References: <46DABB1D.2000409@rusticate.net>
	 <a0a0e1510709021253n481a0207n4f4719fd76a1d3b4@mail.gmail.com>
	 <fef0c250709022127j5f8037dco338e0c32f1c2a757@mail.gmail.com>
	 <000901c7ee1f$6dc0b090$f2c51a18@gibsondell>
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Thanks! I think this will be what I need to do. We have a nice laser
that far exceeds the readability of my hand writing!

Skip Taylor
Lancaster Ca East Stake Tech Specialist

On 9/3/07, David Gibson <ktxstake at hot.rr.com> wrote:
>
> >From LDSClerks: Please see bottom of this message for subscription instructions and list URL.
>
> Get a CD/DVD Label Kit from a "big box" office supplies store or on-line.
> It contains software, labels, and a slick applicator that gives you
> professional-looking labels from your printer.
> DavidG
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Skip Taylor" <avskip at gmail.com>
> To: <ldsclerks at MormonsToday.com>
> Cc: "Skip Taylor" <avskip at gmail.com>
> Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 11:27 PM
> Subject: Re: LDSC: Just an FYI, something we did in our stake
>
>
> > ... Now I"m trying to figure out how I want to label the DVDs that I burn
> > so we can identify them.  Does anyone have a suggestion on labeling
> > the discs?
> >
>
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From tywatson at earthlink.net  Mon Sep  3 09:14:17 2007
From: tywatson at earthlink.net (Thayne Watson)
Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 10:14:17 -0400
Subject: LDSC: Re: Satellite Systems
In-Reply-To: <BAY125-DAV939D70773ADC867887296DAC90@phx.gbl>
References: <fef0c250708181458r74813bb5j5e8a724237d9c139@mail.gmail.com> <46DB271D.7020503@gmail.com> <46DB685A.2000603@rusticate.net> <46DB7B76.9030900@gmail.com> <BAY125-DAV939D70773ADC867887296DAC90@phx.gbl>
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I have had similar problems with access.  In these cases I have been
successful in asking for a meeting with the FM folks and working the issue
with them.  In each case I was granted access to the needed areas.  Our HC
member with responsibility over Facilities has been very cooperative in
helping me get the keys I need as well.

Best Regards,

Thayne
tywatson at earthlink.net

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Sent: Monday, September 03, 2007 5:07 AM
To: ldsclerks at MormonsToday.com
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Subject: RE: LDSC: Re: Satellite Systems


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I thought we had the same problem a few months ago. I called the HQ phone
number posted on the cabinet, but there was no answer. I called one of our
local friendly FM workers, and told him I couldn't find a power switch
inside the satellite cabinet. He told me to turn around, open the breaker
box, and recycle the power to the satellite cabinet using the clearly marked
breaker. I saw the lock on the break box door, and my heart sank. Luckily,
they had left it unlocked for just such an occasion.

Dana

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-ldsclerks at MormonsToday.com
[mailto:owner-ldsclerks at MormonsToday.com] On Behalf Of Larry Jackson

No.  The power cord and receptacles are in the box itself.  The only thing
going in to the box is the coax from the dish, and the only thing going out
of the box is the coax to the distribution points.

One option would have been to try to figure out which circuit breaker the
system is on, but we did not have keys to the circuit breaker panels,
either, and there are seven of them, so it was not worth the trouble.

Those who had come to see the broadcast were sent home and asked to watch it
on the internet.

With the usual apologies, of course.

Larry Jackson


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From rpyne at kinfolk.org  Mon Sep  3 09:28:14 2007
From: rpyne at kinfolk.org (=?utf-8?B?UmljaGFyZCBQeW5l?=)
Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 10:28:14 -0400
Subject: LDSC: Just an FYI, something we did in our stake
In-Reply-To: <fef0c250709022127j5f8037dco338e0c32f1c2a757@mail.gmail.com>
References: <46DABB1D.2000409@rusticate.net> <a0a0e1510709021253n481a0207n4f4719fd76a1d3b4@mail.gmail.com><fef0c250709022127j5f8037dco338e0c32f1c2a757@mail.gmail.com>
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Buy inkjet printable DVDs and get an Epson Photo R200 printer.

--Richard

Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T

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Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 21:27:24 
To:ldsclerks at MormonsToday.com
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Subject: Re: LDSC: Just an FYI, something we did in our stake



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On 9/2/07, Russell Hltn <russellhltn at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Last year we purchased a DVR/DVD burner - the conference is recorded to
> > hard drive, then copies can quickly be edited (chapters, titles, etc)
> > and a copy burned for each ward library.
>
> Is this the Polaroid unit sold by Wal-Mart?

I had our Stake purchase the Philips DVDR3575H/37 model. It's a 160gb
drive along with digital tuner etc..etc... I think it was like $298 or
so. I also had them get the extended warranty as Walmart's ext.
warranty is, IMNSHO, exceptional in wording at least.

It seems a pretty decent unit, but it's the first one I've ever used.
Now I"m trying to figure out how I want to label the DVDs that I burn
so we can identify them.  Does anyone have a suggestion on labeling
the discs?

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From tlwalker at nethere.com  Mon Sep  3 10:22:10 2007
From: tlwalker at nethere.com (Tom Walker)
Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 11:22:10 -0400
Subject: LDSC: Who do I call to get a missing financial statement?
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References: <famkoc+6umb@eGroups.com> <a0a0e1510709012309m53ce3719xec558858696d48b0@mail.gmail.com>
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Some time back they changed the phone service. Before if one dialed the 
reference number on the to of the Bank Statement gave IT you an option 
to go directly to a clerk taking care of Bank Problems.
The last time I called that number I had to play the Stupid Phone tag 
game and had to go through it twice as the instructions were not nearly 
as clear as they used to be.  :-(  :-(

Tom Walker

Russell Hltn wrote:
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> 1) Check with the Bishop (and/or past bishop).  Make sure he doesn't
> have it somewhere as it's mailed to his home.
>
> 2) Lacking any better idea, call CHQ at the 1-800 number and enter
> 23500 for the extension, press 1 and wait.
>
> 3) Place instruction #2 somewhere where you can find it as needed -
> you'll be doing that a lot.  <grin>
>
>
> On 8/24/07, smilton1981 <milton_s at bellsouth.net> wrote:
>   
>> I have just been called to be our ward clerk so please excuse my lack
>> of knowledge.  We are getting ready to do our semi-annual audit and
>> noticed that we are missing our June financial statement.  Where would
>> I need to go or who would I need to contact to get that sent again?
>>
>>
>>     
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From tlwalker at nethere.com  Mon Sep  3 10:29:20 2007
From: tlwalker at nethere.com (Tom Walker)
Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 11:29:20 -0400
Subject: LDSC: Just an FYI, something we did in our stake
In-Reply-To: <46DABB1D.2000409@rusticate.net>
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That brings up and Interesting question. General Conference is regularly 
recorded. My wife is the Stake Historian and takes minutes using a 
laptop for the Stake conferences. One time when she had to work overtime 
and could not be there a asked if an audio recording could be made and 
she would transcribe it later and the High Councilman in charge said 
that was NOT allowed!!
 Any comments??

Tom Walker

Skier wrote:
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> As you are no doubt aware, stakes are supposed to record sessions of
> conference and make the tapes available in the library.  Since people
> these days are more likely to have DVD players than VCRs our stake
> decided the time was right to start recording conference sessions to DVD.
>
> Last year we purchased a DVR/DVD burner - the conference is recorded to
> hard drive, then copies can quickly be edited (chapters, titles, etc)
> and a copy burned for each ward library.  This particular machine holds
> some 40 hours of recordings or so, allowing for past sessions to quickly
> be re-burned if anybody requests for a copy.
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From tlwalker at nethere.com  Mon Sep  3 10:34:02 2007
From: tlwalker at nethere.com (Tom Walker)
Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 11:34:02 -0400
Subject: LDSC: Pulling the trigger on new recommends
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I heard about 1 November. BUT it depends on how Diligent the Stakes are 
in meeting the 4 Month Deadline they were given for the Conversion when 
they received the new books.
Here in my Stake the BIG bottleneck in the conversion process in the 
Stake Presidency. THEY are NOT going out of their way to make more of 
their time available for signing the upgraded recommends.
With the WHOLE stake trying to convert in a short period of time it is a 
problem.

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> Has anybody heard when the new recommend system is to go live for
> everybody?  AFAIK all of the units now have the new books and the reader
> is in place in the temple.
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From cwha at ldskc.org  Mon Sep  3 11:15:48 2007
From: cwha at ldskc.org (Chuck Anderson)
Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 12:15:48 -0400
Subject: LDSC: Just an FYI, something we did in our stake
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References: <46DABB1D.2000409@rusticate.net> <46DC2850.3040808@nethere.com>
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Why bother recording it when you can order a complete set of 3 DVD's  
for any General Conference from the Distribution Center for  
$7.00?????  www.ldscatalog.com
You can even order a "subscription" so it gets mailed to you after  
every General Conference automatically.

Chuck Anderson
cwha at ldskc.org



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That brings up and Interesting question. General Conference is  
regularly recorded. My wife is the Stake Historian and takes minutes  
using a laptop for the Stake conferences. One time when she had to  
work overtime and could not be there a asked if an audio recording  
could be made and she would transcribe it later and the High  
Councilman in charge said that was NOT allowed!!
Any comments??

Tom Walker

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> As you are no doubt aware, stakes are supposed to record sessions of
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> these days are more likely to have DVD players than VCRs our stake
> decided the time was right to start recording conference sessions  
> to DVD.
>
> Last year we purchased a DVR/DVD burner - the conference is  
> recorded to
> hard drive, then copies can quickly be edited (chapters, titles, etc)
> and a copy burned for each ward library.  This particular machine  
> holds
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From tlwalker at nethere.com  Mon Sep  3 12:13:22 2007
From: tlwalker at nethere.com (Tom Walker)
Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 13:13:22 -0400
Subject: LDSC: Just an FYI, something we did in our stake
In-Reply-To: <5FFD307F-CFEA-49D7-A34A-25A8F0DF7696@ldskc.org>
References: <46DABB1D.2000409@rusticate.net> <46DC2850.3040808@nethere.com> <5FFD307F-CFEA-49D7-A34A-25A8F0DF7696@ldskc.org>
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Multipuly that be all the Libraries in a particuaqlrly Stake and while a 
still nominal value is MORE expensive then burning your Own DVD's. Which 
will be destroyed by careless users anythow.
A am a rabid beliver in NOT wasting Tithing Funds and IF you watch the 
Pennies the Dollars will take care of themselves as they say.  :-)

Tom Walker

Chuck Anderson wrote:
> Why bother recording it when you can order a complete set of 3 DVD's 
> for any General Conference from the Distribution Center for 
> $7.00?????  www.ldscatalog.com
> You can even order a "subscription" so it gets mailed to you after 
> every General Conference automatically.
>
> Chuck Anderson
> cwha at ldskc.org
>
>
>
> On Sep 3, 2007, at 10:29 AM, Tom Walker wrote:
>
>
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> That brings up and Interesting question. General Conference is 
> regularly recorded. My wife is the Stake Historian and takes minutes 
> using a laptop for the Stake conferences. One time when she had to 
> work overtime and could not be there a asked if an audio recording 
> could be made and she would transcribe it later and the High 
> Councilman in charge said that was NOT allowed!!
> Any comments??
>
> Tom Walker
>
> Skier wrote:
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>> As you are no doubt aware, stakes are supposed to record sessions of
>> conference and make the tapes available in the library.  Since people
>> these days are more likely to have DVD players than VCRs our stake
>> decided the time was right to start recording conference sessions to 
>> DVD.
>>
>> Last year we purchased a DVR/DVD burner - the conference is recorded to
>> hard drive, then copies can quickly be edited (chapters, titles, etc)
>> and a copy burned for each ward library.  This particular machine holds
>> some 40 hours of recordings or so, allowing for past sessions to quickly
>> be re-burned if anybody requests for a copy.
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From ldsskier at rusticate.net  Mon Sep  3 12:24:06 2007
From: ldsskier at rusticate.net (Skier)
Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 13:24:06 -0400
Subject: LDSC: Just an FYI, something we did in our stake
In-Reply-To: <5FFD307F-CFEA-49D7-A34A-25A8F0DF7696@ldskc.org>
References: <46DABB1D.2000409@rusticate.net> <46DC2850.3040808@nethere.com> <5FFD307F-CFEA-49D7-A34A-25A8F0DF7696@ldskc.org>
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Chuck Anderson wrote:
> Why bother recording it when you can order a complete set of 3 DVD's for
> any General Conference from the Distribution Center for $7.00????? 

In my stake we have 12 units.

12 x $7 = $84.  Twice each year.  Plus the priesthood sessions aren't
sold.  Plus some wards may want more than one copy.  Plus regional
broadcasts aren't made available.

As far as I know, every stake has a VCR hooked up to their satellite
dishes.  This must have been done for a reason.  VCRs are now obsolete.

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From lajacksn at gmail.com  Mon Sep  3 13:07:52 2007
From: lajacksn at gmail.com (Larry Jackson)
Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 14:07:52 -0400
Subject: LDSC: Re: Re: Temple Recommend Activation Report
In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20070903064240.03a4cac8@knology.net>
References: <f9vj9v+dpt2@eGroups.com> <46DB20BE.9060504@gmail.com> <7.0.1.0.2.20070902220244.039f07e0@knology.net> <46DB7D35.7050103@gmail.com> <7.0.1.0.2.20070903064240.03a4cac8@knology.net>
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Mitch Borden:

Well, as I said earlier, I've done at least a dozen S/R cycles since the 
conversion, including 5 Sunday -- but I'll be in the vicinity again 
today so I'll go by and try it again.

_______________

Yes, you did say that, but some of our reports did not disappear until a 
week after the upgrade.

In any event, if it is not back by today, I would call the help desk 
tomorrow.

Larry Jackson


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From bowerm at ix.netcom.com  Mon Sep  3 13:08:34 2007
From: bowerm at ix.netcom.com (Michael Bower)
Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 14:08:34 -0400
Subject: LDSC: Just an FYI, something we did in our stake
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Several questions:

1) you have twelve units but do you have 12 buildings?  If not, then a 
set or two per library should be enough.

2) even at $7.00, it is a good price.  If someone has to record it to a 
'master' then make copies, you still have the price of DVDs and the 
machine to copy on.  More importantly, you have someones time to copy 
them.  If someone from my building said, "Here are the DVDs we recorded 
from GC, would you make us 3 sets?" my answer would be "Here's $21.  Buy 
them."

Time is valuable.  Why squander it?

Sorry, just my .02.



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>> Why bother recording it when you can order a complete set of 3 DVD's for
>> any General Conference from the Distribution Center for $7.00????? 
> 
> In my stake we have 12 units.
> 
> 12 x $7 = $84.  Twice each year.  Plus the priesthood sessions aren't
> sold.  Plus some wards may want more than one copy.  Plus regional
> broadcasts aren't made available.
> 
> As far as I know, every stake has a VCR hooked up to their satellite
> dishes.  This must have been done for a reason.  VCRs are now obsolete.
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From lajacksn at gmail.com  Mon Sep  3 13:19:35 2007
From: lajacksn at gmail.com (Larry Jackson)
Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 14:19:35 -0400
Subject: LDSC: Re: Just an FYI, something we did in our stake
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Tom Walker:

General Conference is regularly recorded. My wife is the Stake Historian 
and takes minutes using a laptop for the Stake conferences. One time 
when she had to work overtime and could not be there a asked if an audio 
recording could be made and she would transcribe it later and the High 
Councilman in charge said that was NOT allowed!! Any comments??

_______________

Simple.  Recording of talks by general authorities and area seventies is 
not allowed per the handbook, so that part of stake conference should 
not be recorded.

A good solution in this case would be for another person to be asked to 
take notes of the conference, if the stake desired to include that 
information in the annual history.

Some stakes include information about the conference, but not about the 
specific subject matter of the individual talks, other than an overall 
theme if such a theme is announced as a part of the conference.

Others, as yours does, include notes from the talks, it seems.

Larry Jackson


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From mark_werner at byu.edu  Mon Sep  3 13:24:39 2007
From: mark_werner at byu.edu (Mark Werner)
Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 14:24:39 -0400
Subject: LDSC: Just an FYI, something we did in our stake
In-Reply-To: <46DC4336.8080903@rusticate.net>
References: <46DABB1D.2000409@rusticate.net> <46DC2850.3040808@nethere.com> <5FFD307F-CFEA-49D7-A34A-25A8F0DF7696@ldskc.org> <46DC4336.8080903@rusticate.net>
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Au contraire. I've bought personal copies of the DVDs for years and they
always include the priesthood session.

Mark Werner

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Plus the priesthood sessions aren't sold.



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From lajacksn at gmail.com  Mon Sep  3 13:28:15 2007
From: lajacksn at gmail.com (Larry Jackson)
Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 14:28:15 -0400
Subject: LDSC: Re: Pulling the trigger on new recommends
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References: <4d7709f30708210950n5c872c4agd9a7024a09d8f36a@mail.gmail.com> <46DABBAF.2000607@rusticate.net> <46DC296A.1070702@nethere.com>
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Skier:

Has anybody heard when the new recommend system is to go live for 
everybody?  AFAIK all of the units now have the new books and the reader 
is in place in the temple.

Tom Walker:
I heard about 1 November. BUT it depends on how Diligent the Stakes are 
in meeting the 4 Month Deadline they were given for the Conversion when 
they received the new books.

Here in my Stake the BIG bottleneck in the conversion process in the 
Stake Presidency. THEY are NOT going out of their way to make more of 
their time available for signing the upgraded recommends.

_______________


We got our books in August.  We were asked to make the change in four 
months.  That means we should be finished by mid-December.

The four temples nearest to us do not have the scanners or computers in 
place to even begin reading the recommends.

Our stake presidency has worked with each unit to schedule times over 
the next three months to sign recommends.

Our challenge is that we have two bishops who thought tithing settlement 
time would be a good time to start issuing the new recommends, which has 
led to some specific training topics at stake leadership meetings.

This is just my own personal opinion.  As I have guessed before, I think 
that by the end of the year, or perhaps beginning in January, you will 
need a coded recommend or your bishop will get a phone call.  I am sure 
the temples will let the stake presidents know.

I also know that the temples will do anything they can to make sure that 
worthy members with current recommends are able to enter the temple, so 
I would not worry too much about it, as long as there is a plan in the 
stake to get the recommends converted by the end of the four months.

Larry Jackson


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From russellhltn at gmail.com  Mon Sep  3 14:12:50 2007
From: russellhltn at gmail.com (Russell Hltn)
Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 15:12:50 -0400
Subject: LDSC: Just an FYI, something we did in our stake
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On 9/3/07, Michael Bower <bowerm at ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> 2) even at $7.00, it is a good price.  If someone has to record it to a
> 'master' then make copies, you still have the price of DVDs and the
> machine to copy on.

Blank DVDs are around $1/each as I recall.  Which is cheaper then the
VCR tapes we've been using.

How long does it take for the pre-recorded ones to arrive?  With the
stake recording, it's available immediately.  The greatest interest in
them seems to be right after CG for those who missed a session.
Within weeks the interest fades.

I think the biggest reason not to record GC is that's now available on
the Internet.  That's good enough for personal use.

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From joanealww at comcast.net  Mon Sep  3 15:17:32 2007
From: joanealww at comcast.net (neal whiteford)
Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 16:17:32 -0400
Subject: LDSC: Just another screw up?
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New problem just since MLS 2.6 made its grand entrance this weekend.  On the
tables where you change system users and the level of access each user has,
I found several spurious entries.

The prior ward clerk who moved from our ward 4 years ago...his name
reappeared...

The finance clerk that moved last year and who's records were sent to a
neighboring ward (sent them myself)- his name reappeared.....

One of the bishopric counselors that moved out of the state 3 years ago  -
his name reappeared on the list of authorized users.

Some of the users that are still in the ward have two name entries with
different levels of authorization and others that have been released to
different callings and no longer need computer access or authorization. have
had their names reappear.

The strange part is I cannot delete the spurious names.  They appear with a
"renew" option and cannot be taken off the list.  How strange is that?  I
know...Call SLC and grapple with a groundling, but has anyone else had
extraneous information appear in the same way...  or elsewhere in the new
MLS?  What ever happened to Beta testing prior to a new release?????

Neal Whiteford

Ward Clerk

Benson Hill

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From embunker817 at msn.com  Mon Sep  3 15:23:21 2007
From: embunker817 at msn.com (Eric Bunker)
Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 16:23:21 -0400
Subject: LDSC: Pulling the trigger on new recommends
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In our stake we also experience the wrong numbers.   Most of them have been 
inverted numbers and the replacement of the letter A at the end of some 
recommend numbers with a 4, 8, or 9.  Some of them are complete wrong 
numbers.

We can find the right numbers and correct them, but it is wrong on the 
recommend. Such a recommend has a good possibility of not being acceptable 
to the temple with an altered recommend number on it.  So we just send those 
back for reissue.

We have asked the ward clerks to create a list of members with recommend 
numbers for the bishopric to reference when writing all recommends so the 
numbers can have a better chance of being right.


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> We did about 100 in our building day (Stake Office) and in most cases
> they went in fine.  The biggest problem we had was incorrect member
> numbers.  In some cases, they just turned some digits around so I was
> able to correct.  In a few cases, they had the number totally wrong
> (either picked up the wrong line when writing it down (in one case the
> mother had the daughter's number) or they got the spouses number (that
> happened 3-4 times).  Except for one case late in the day (and SP had
> already left), we were able to fix all of them.  I then did a
> Send/Receive to send it to SLC.
>
> The input system is not geared for batch (large volumes) of activation
> but we should only go through this during the cutover.
>
> We didn't have to do anything to the system other than installing MLS
> 2.6.  OS recognized the scanner immediately.
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> > We've got the scanner at our stake already. We are beginning to read in
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> > Allen
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> > On 9/2/07, Skier <ldsskier at rusticate.net> wrote:
> >> Has anybody heard when the new recommend system is to go live for
> >> everybody?  AFAIK all of the units now have the new books and the 
> >> reader
> >> is in place in the temple.
> >>
> >>
> >
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From embunker817 at msn.com  Mon Sep  3 15:24:44 2007
From: embunker817 at msn.com (Eric Bunker)
Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 16:24:44 -0400
Subject: LDSC: Re: Re: Pulling the trigger on new recommends
References: <4d7709f30708210950n5c872c4agd9a7024a09d8f36a@mail.gmail.com> <46DABBAF.2000607@rusticate.net> <46DC296A.1070702@nethere.com> <46DC523F.3070602@gmail.com>
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I have understood that it will be come active for all units by the end of 
this year.  For our temple, it is November.

Eric

Clerk
Queen Creek Arizona Stake


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Subject: LDSC: Re: Pulling the trigger on new recommends


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> Skier:
>
> Has anybody heard when the new recommend system is to go live for
> everybody?  AFAIK all of the units now have the new books and the reader
> is in place in the temple.
>
> Tom Walker:
> I heard about 1 November. BUT it depends on how Diligent the Stakes are
> in meeting the 4 Month Deadline they were given for the Conversion when
> they received the new books.
>
> Here in my Stake the BIG bottleneck in the conversion process in the
> Stake Presidency. THEY are NOT going out of their way to make more of
> their time available for signing the upgraded recommends.
>
> _______________
>
>
> We got our books in August.  We were asked to make the change in four
> months.  That means we should be finished by mid-December.
>
> The four temples nearest to us do not have the scanners or computers in
> place to even begin reading the recommends.
>
> Our stake presidency has worked with each unit to schedule times over
> the next three months to sign recommends.
>
> Our challenge is that we have two bishops who thought tithing settlement
> time would be a good time to start issuing the new recommends, which has
> led to some specific training topics at stake leadership meetings.
>
> This is just my own personal opinion.  As I have guessed before, I think
> that by the end of the year, or perhaps beginning in January, you will
> need a coded recommend or your bishop will get a phone call.  I am sure
> the temples will let the stake presidents know.
>
> I also know that the temples will do anything they can to make sure that
> worthy members with current recommends are able to enter the temple, so
> I would not worry too much about it, as long as there is a plan in the
> stake to get the recommends converted by the end of the four months.
>
> Larry Jackson
>
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From: douglas.dobbins5 at verizon.net (Douglas Dobbins)
Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 16:48:35 -0400
Subject: LDSC: Re: Re: Pulling the trigger on new recommends
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I am stake clerk in the Mount Vernon Washington Stake and am also an ordinance worker in the Seattle Washington Temple. We received our new temple recommends back in the middle of June, with the instructions to complete the change over in 4 months. In the Temple we started last week, August 28, scanning with the scanner. The Temple President commented that they were told the new system was being started on the West Coast and was going to work it's way East from here. So, he said, we will be seeing regular recommends for some time.

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Larry Jackson<mailto:lajacksn at gmail.com> 
  To: ldsclerks at MormonsToday.com<mailto:ldsclerks at MormonsToday.com> 
  Cc: Larry Jackson<mailto:lajacksn at gmail.com> 
  Sent: Monday, September 03, 2007 11:28 AM
  Subject: LDSC: Re: Pulling the trigger on new recommends


  Skier:

  Has anybody heard when the new recommend system is to go live for 
  everybody?  AFAIK all of the units now have the new books and the reader 
  is in place in the temple.

  Tom Walker:
  I heard about 1 November. BUT it depends on how Diligent the Stakes are 
  in meeting the 4 Month Deadline they were given for the Conversion when 
  they received the new books.

  Here in my Stake the BIG bottleneck in the conversion process in the 
  Stake Presidency. THEY are NOT going out of their way to make more of 
  their time available for signing the upgraded recommends.

  _______________


  We got our books in August.  We were asked to make the change in four 
  months.  That means we should be finished by mid-December.

  The four temples nearest to us do not have the scanners or computers in 
  place to even begin reading the recommends.

  Our stake presidency has worked with each unit to schedule times over 
  the next three months to sign recommends.

  Our challenge i