From lajacksn at gmail.com Fri Feb 1 21:57:17 2008 From: lajacksn at gmail.com (Larry Jackson) Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2008 22:57:17 -0500 Subject: LDSC: Re: Citibank? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <47A3EA1D.1060106@gmail.com> >From LDSClerks: Please see bottom of this message for subscription instructions and list URL. w5aj90: anyone making direct deposit for Tithing using Citibank? _______________ If you are talking about the weekly unit deposit, many years ago, Bank of America and one other bank were the only two banks that units could use for deposit concentration. I do not recall that Citibank was one of those, but I do not remember the name of the 2nd bank, either. And it may be that today more banks are available. If you are talking about paying your own tithing using a bank bill pay service, Citibank should work as well as any other, if you have the right account numbers and directions, etc. Larry Jackson >From ldsclerks: Please do not send copyrighted material to ldsclerks. See list info at: http://www.MormonsToday.com/ldsclerks/index.html Send commands in the body of a message to majordomo at MormonsToday.com To join: subscribe ldsclerks To leave: unsubscribe ldsclerks To join digest: subscribe ldsclerks-digest From klarsen at MormonsToday.com Sun Feb 3 01:35:23 2008 From: klarsen at MormonsToday.com (Kent S. Larsen II) Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2008 02:35:23 -0500 Subject: LDSC: Please Don't Post to LDSClerks until I let you know!!! Message-ID: >From LDSClerks: Please see bottom of this message for subscription instructions and list URL. Folks, We're migrating servers today (Sunday, February 3rd), and it may take 24 to 48 hours for the change to get out everywhere on the Internet. While this is happening, please don't send any messages to LDSClerks until I send instructions on how it will operate on the new server. If you hold off, we won't loose any messages due to the switch. FYI, as part of this switch, we're switching the primary mailing list software we use from majordomo (which we've been using for more than 10 years) to mailman. The switch should allow us a bit more flexibility and make the list more dependable. The secondary mailing list system, on yahoogroups, will still be used. But PLEASE DON'T SEND MESSAGES TO THE YAHOOGROUPS ADDRESS EITHER. As part of this change I plan to ask others on the list to be additional moderators. This switch will also allow me to clean up the problems with the LDSClerks wiki, and prevent the spammer problem we've had there. Thanks for your patience. Kent Larsen Listowner, LDSClerks >From ldsclerks: Please do not send copyrighted material to ldsclerks. See list info at: http://www.MormonsToday.com/ldsclerks/index.html Send commands in the body of a message to majordomo at MormonsToday.com To join: subscribe ldsclerks To leave: unsubscribe ldsclerks To join digest: subscribe ldsclerks-digest From klarsen at mormonstoday.com Fri Feb 8 08:18:12 2008 From: klarsen at mormonstoday.com (Kent S. Larsen II) Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 09:18:12 -0500 Subject: LDSC: LDSClerks Returns!! (was: Please Don't Post to LDSClerks until I let you know!!!) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: >From LDSClerks: Please see bottom of this message for subscription instructions and list URL. LDSClerks is back!! The list is up and operating again, and you are welcome to post away. There have been a couple of changes that you need to know: 1. The list address has changed slightly. It is now ldsclerks at lists.mormonstoday.com The extra "lists." in front of the domain name is important, and messages won't get to the list without it. As before, messages sent to the Yahoogroups address are forwarded to the ldsclerks at lists.mormonstoday.com and will await moderation before being sent to the list. 2. If you were on both the digest and regular list on the old host (this was true for 40 addresses), you will no longer be able to get both the digest and the regular list at the same address at the same time. I put all the 40 addresses on both on to just the regular list. AND, you may want to know about the following new benefits: 1. There is now a web-based interface for those who have subscribed through mormonstoday.com. It does require a password -- which no one has at the moment. The software assigned a random password to you when your address was added to the new software. You can get the password by visiting the web interface at: http://lists.mormonstoday.com/listinfo/ldsclerks and entering your email address in the "Unsubscribe or edit options" box on the bottom of the page. The page you get by clicking on this button allows you to have your password mailed to you. You can then log in and change the password to whatever you like. 2. I've loaded the complete list archives since the list began in December 1998! Its not yet searchable (I can probably set something up using Google soon), but it is mostly complete. We are nearly at 20,000 posts over the almost 10 years that LDSClerks has been active. You can see the archives at: http://lists.mormonstoday.com/pipermail/ldsclerks/ 3. The new list software also makes it easier for me to name additional moderators to assist in running the list. If you would like to volunteer to help out, please let me know. I will also ask longtime list members if they would be willing to help on this front. More on this later. For the next week or so, I'm happy to allow questions on the list about how the list software runs and about the web pages for the list. I appreciate any and all feedback, and I'll try to respond to any questions. Kent At 2:35 AM -0500 2/3/08, I wrote: > >Folks, > >We're migrating servers today (Sunday, February 3rd), and it may take 24 to >48 hours for the change to get out everywhere on the Internet. > >While this is happening, please don't send any messages to LDSClerks until >I send instructions on how it will operate on the new server. If you hold >off, we won't loose any messages due to the switch. > > >FYI, as part of this switch, we're switching the primary mailing list >software we use from majordomo (which we've been using for more than 10 >years) to mailman. The switch should allow us a bit more flexibility and >make the list more dependable. The secondary mailing list system, on >yahoogroups, will still be used. But PLEASE DON'T SEND MESSAGES TO THE >YAHOOGROUPS ADDRESS EITHER. > >As part of this change I plan to ask others on the list to be additional >moderators. This switch will also allow me to clean up the problems with >the LDSClerks wiki, and prevent the spammer problem we've had there. > >Thanks for your patience. > >Kent Larsen >Listowner, LDSClerks > > > >>From ldsclerks: Please do not send copyrighted material to ldsclerks. >See list info at: http://www.MormonsToday.com/ldsclerks/index.html > >Send commands in the body of a message to majordomo at MormonsToday.com >To join: subscribe ldsclerks >To leave: unsubscribe ldsclerks >To join digest: subscribe ldsclerks-digest _______________________________________________ >From LDSClerks: Please do not send copyrighted material to LDSClerks. See list info at: http://lists.mormonstoday.com/listinfo/ldsclerks From popw8s at nwi.net Fri Feb 8 10:40:46 2008 From: popw8s at nwi.net (wm_waites) Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 11:40:46 -0500 Subject: LDSC: web site calendaring Message-ID: >From LDSClerks: Please see bottom of this message for subscription instructions and list URL. Can someone help me with "directional" info re the web site administration for use of the "repeat" function in calendaring items? All I can get it to do is 'repeat' the item every day between the dates indicated. Perhaps that's the program intent? [frown] I was hoping I could , i.e., have a specific item such as HPGL PPI every 3rd Sunday, etc. I can't seem to locate any 'instructive' material from the "help" tab. My "high mileage" gray matter seems to recall a similar discussion 'somewhere out there', but am unable to locate thate that, as well. Bill Waites Ward clerk/web site admin. Moses Lake 5th Ward Moses Lake Wash Stake _______________________________________________ >From LDSClerks: Please do not send copyrighted material to LDSClerks. See list info at: http://lists.mormonstoday.com/listinfo/ldsclerks From russellhltn at gmail.com Fri Feb 8 13:03:17 2008 From: russellhltn at gmail.com (Russell Hltn) Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 14:03:17 -0500 Subject: LDSC: LDSClerks Returns!! (was: Please Don't Post to LDSClerks until I let you know!!!) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: >From LDSClerks: Please see bottom of this message for subscription instructions and list URL. Sounds like a lot of work. Thanks Kent! On Feb 8, 2008 4:18 AM, Kent S. Larsen II wrote: > >From LDSClerks: Please see bottom of this message for subscription instructions and list URL. > > LDSClerks is back!! The list is up and operating again, and you are welcome > to post away. > _______________________________________________ >From LDSClerks: Please do not send copyrighted material to LDSClerks. See list info at: http://lists.mormonstoday.com/listinfo/ldsclerks From clerk.crescent at gmail.com Fri Feb 8 13:05:13 2008 From: clerk.crescent at gmail.com (Alan Brown) Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 14:05:13 -0500 Subject: LDSC: web site calendaring In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7378de6f0802081105x47db7c65yf6572be5c9a9f704@mail.gmail.com> >From LDSClerks: Please see bottom of this message for subscription instructions and list URL. On Feb 8, 2008 9:40 AM, wm_waites wrote: > Can someone help me with "directional" info re the web site > administration for use of the "repeat" function in calendaring items? > All I can get it to do is 'repeat' the item every day between the dates > indicated. Perhaps that's the program intent? [frown] I was hoping I > could , i.e., have a specific item such as HPGL PPI every 3rd Sunday, > etc. I can't seem to locate any 'instructive' material from the "help" tab. On the LUWS Administration for calendars, when you are adding an event, you can specify a start date and end date. This is handy for things like a 4-day youth conference. However, if you want to have more repeating options, choose the "Make this a repeating event" link (located right below the End Date) to specify how often the event repeats. That option will pop up a window (make sure your browser allows popups on this site, or you might miss it) that will then allow you to specify if the repetition is annual, monthly, weekly. Depending on that choice, you will be presented with other options. For example, an annual event can be on a specific day (e.g., Christmas is every 25th day of December) or a set weekday of a month (e.g., Thanksgiving is the 4th Thursday of November). For monthly events, you can schedule an event for the second Sunday of every third month, for example. Once you find the "make this a repeating event link" you should be able to figure it out. Note, however, that there are no exceptions allowed to these repeating events. For example, if you have a ward council meeting on the second Sunday of every month, but in May you decide to move it to the third Sunday to avoid Mothers Day, you'll have to have one repeating event up through April, a single event in May, and another repeating event from June on. Alan Brown Assistant Stake Clerk Sandy Utah Crescent Stake _______________________________________________ >From LDSClerks: Please do not send copyrighted material to LDSClerks. See list info at: http://lists.mormonstoday.com/listinfo/ldsclerks From Steve.Neeland at ingrambook.com Tue Feb 12 09:20:39 2008 From: Steve.Neeland at ingrambook.com (Neeland, Steve) Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 09:20:39 -0600 Subject: LDSC: web site calendaring In-Reply-To: <7378de6f0802081105x47db7c65yf6572be5c9a9f704@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <34D00262650E7645A20A26B937C2139F0200EE23@IBC2K3EXCH.ingrambook.com> One thing I have done for repeating events is to enter the new single-day event, then when that is accepted and the calendar is redisplayed I immediately press the Backspace key to get the event entry screen again. I change the date, submit the new event, press the Backspace key again, enter the next 'repeating' event again and continue that on till I'm done. It's a LOT more work up front, but during the year, if an event for a specific day gets rescheduled or cancelled I can modify that individual event and not impact all the others. If you enter is as a recurring event as the system provides, if you change one day's event it will effect all the events that are recurring. When I read this back it sounds really confusing. Sorry..... Steve -----Original Message----- From: ldsclerks-bounces at lists.mormonstoday.com [mailto:ldsclerks-bounces at lists.mormonstoday.com] On Behalf Of Alan Brown Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 1:05 PM To: Discussion for LDS Church Ward/Stake Clerks/Secretaries Subject: Re: LDSC: web site calendaring >From LDSClerks: Please see bottom of this message for subscription instructions and list URL. On Feb 8, 2008 9:40 AM, wm_waites wrote: > Can someone help me with "directional" info re the web site > administration for use of the "repeat" function in calendaring items? > All I can get it to do is 'repeat' the item every day between the dates > indicated. Perhaps that's the program intent? [frown] I was hoping I > could , i.e., have a specific item such as HPGL PPI every 3rd Sunday, > etc. I can't seem to locate any 'instructive' material from the "help" tab. On the LUWS Administration for calendars, when you are adding an event, you can specify a start date and end date. This is handy for things like a 4-day youth conference. However, if you want to have more repeating options, choose the "Make this a repeating event" link (located right below the End Date) to specify how often the event repeats. That option will pop up a window (make sure your browser allows popups on this site, or you might miss it) that will then allow you to specify if the repetition is annual, monthly, weekly. Depending on that choice, you will be presented with other options. For example, an annual event can be on a specific day (e.g., Christmas is every 25th day of December) or a set weekday of a month (e.g., Thanksgiving is the 4th Thursday of November). For monthly events, you can schedule an event for the second Sunday of every third month, for example. Once you find the "make this a repeating event link" you should be able to figure it out. Note, however, that there are no exceptions allowed to these repeating events. For example, if you have a ward council meeting on the second Sunday of every month, but in May you decide to move it to the third Sunday to avoid Mothers Day, you'll have to have one repeating event up through April, a single event in May, and another repeating event from June on. Alan Brown Assistant Stake Clerk Sandy Utah Crescent Stake _______________________________________________ >From LDSClerks: Please do not send copyrighted material to LDSClerks. See list info at: http://lists.mormonstoday.com/listinfo/ldsclerks From bordenjr at knology.net Tue Feb 12 10:11:20 2008 From: bordenjr at knology.net (Mitch Borden) Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 11:11:20 -0500 Subject: LDSC: web site calendaring In-Reply-To: <34D00262650E7645A20A26B937C2139F0200EE23@IBC2K3EXCH.ingram book.com> References: <7378de6f0802081105x47db7c65yf6572be5c9a9f704@mail.gmail.com> <34D00262650E7645A20A26B937C2139F0200EE23@IBC2K3EXCH.ingrambook.com> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080212110953.03d61d78@knology.net> At 10:20 AM 2/12/2008, you wrote: > >From LDSClerks: Please see bottom of this message for subscription > instructions and list URL. >One thing I have done for repeating events is to enter the new >single-day event, then when that is accepted and the calendar is >redisplayed I immediately press the Backspace key to get the event entry >screen again. I change the date, submit the new event, press the >Backspace key again, enter the next 'repeating' event again and continue >that on till I'm done. It's a LOT more work up front, but during the >year, if an event for a specific day gets rescheduled or cancelled I can >modify that individual event and not impact all the others. If you >enter is as a recurring event as the system provides, if you change one >day's event it will effect all the events that are recurring. > >When I read this back it sounds really confusing. Sorry..... > >Steve Hey, neat idea! I never thought of using the back-space key to get the same event instantly available for re-entry. Guess I'd have never made a good candidate for the space program, huh? ;-) Mitch Borden From clerk at plsgroupinc.net Tue Feb 12 22:28:24 2008 From: clerk at plsgroupinc.net (Stake Clerk) Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 21:28:24 -0700 Subject: LDSC: Broadband connections In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20080212110953.03d61d78@knology.net> Message-ID: I thought this was interesting--pretty sparse on technical details. . . ______________________________________________________________ Date: February 11, 2008 To: General Authorities; Area Seventies; Stake, Mission, and District Presidents; Bishops and Branch Presidents; Facilities Managers From: Office of the Presiding Bishopric Subject: Connecting Stake and Ward Clerk Computers to Church Communications Network (CCN) Internet Connections Computers in the offices of stake and ward clerks can now be connected to existing broadband connections, such as those that might exist in family history centers or facilities management offices. Stakes, districts, wards, and branches are not authorized to order their own broadband connections. They are only authorized to share existing authorized broadband connections that are in place for department-sponsored units. If there are any costs associated with connecting to these CCN connections, then they are the responsibility of the stake or district, and the work must be cleared with the facilities manager before it is done. From russellhltn at gmail.com Wed Feb 13 12:28:29 2008 From: russellhltn at gmail.com (Russell Hltn) Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 08:28:29 -1000 Subject: LDSC: Broadband connections In-Reply-To: References: <7.0.1.0.2.20080212110953.03d61d78@knology.net> Message-ID: I'll say. The others I've see say you must be running Desktop 5.5 before you connect. On Feb 12, 2008 6:28 PM, Stake Clerk wrote: > >From LDSClerks: Please see bottom of this message for subscription instructions and list URL. > I thought this was interesting--pretty sparse on technical details. . . > From don_fairchild at byu.edu Wed Feb 13 14:08:36 2008 From: don_fairchild at byu.edu (Don Fairchild) Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 13:08:36 -0700 Subject: LDSC: Broadband connections In-Reply-To: References: <7.0.1.0.2.20080212110953.03d61d78@knology.net> Message-ID: <4772975CE1FA44478B61F33DE0E3A63386EE84E96C@harrow.exch.ad.byu.edu> I believe they assume, since they asked us months ago to install Desktop 5.5 on all of our computer systems, that we have completed the task and that the systems will be ready for the broadband connection. I don't believe that they have dropped the requirement. This announcement is no different in principle than what they have been saying for months and that is that if there is a CCN already in the building then clerks can attach to it (assuming the Desktop 5.5). The costs of connecting will be borne by the stake. The only new information to me is that they clarified that ANY CCN connection may be used, not just one for a Family History Center. On Feb 13, 2008 11:28 AM, Russell Hltn wrote: The others I've see say you must be running Desktop 5.5 before you connect. Don Fairchild Orem Utah Windsor Stake From avskip at gmail.com Wed Feb 13 14:40:49 2008 From: avskip at gmail.com (Skip Taylor) Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 12:40:49 -0800 Subject: LDSC: Broadband connections In-Reply-To: References: <7.0.1.0.2.20080212110953.03d61d78@knology.net> Message-ID: I know it says in the message where it came from, but I'm wondering if there's a place I could find and verify this letter/message online? On Tue, Feb 12, 2008 at 8:28 PM, Stake Clerk wrote: > I thought this was interesting--pretty sparse on technical details. . . > ______________________________________________________________ > Date: February 11, 2008 > > To: General Authorities; Area Seventies; Stake, Mission, and District > Presidents; Bishops and Branch Presidents; Facilities Managers > > From: Office of the Presiding Bishopric > > Subject: Connecting Stake and Ward Clerk Computers to Church Communications > Network (CCN) Internet Connections From cwha at ldskc.org Wed Feb 13 14:48:41 2008 From: cwha at ldskc.org (Chuck Anderson) Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 14:48:41 -0600 Subject: LDSC: Broadband connections In-Reply-To: References: <7.0.1.0.2.20080212110953.03d61d78@knology.net> Message-ID: <908adc330802131248o2a5206afv65f557738fcb9e2@mail.gmail.com> Nope, but our Stake President received a copy, and it says it also went to Bishops, so you can ask them for a copy of the letter if this email copy isn't good enough. Chuck Anderson On Feb 13, 2008 2:40 PM, Skip Taylor wrote: > >From LDSClerks: Please see bottom of this message for subscription > instructions and list URL. > I know it says in the message where it came from, but I'm wondering if > there's a place I could find and verify this letter/message online? > > On Tue, Feb 12, 2008 at 8:28 PM, Stake Clerk > wrote: > > I thought this was interesting--pretty sparse on technical details. . . > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Date: February 11, 2008 > > > > To: General Authorities; Area Seventies; Stake, Mission, and District > > Presidents; Bishops and Branch Presidents; Facilities Managers > > > > From: Office of the Presiding Bishopric > > > > Subject: Connecting Stake and Ward Clerk Computers to Church > Communications > > Network (CCN) Internet Connections > _______________________________________________ > >From LDSClerks: Please do not send copyrighted material to LDSClerks. > See list info at: > http://lists.mormonstoday.com/listinfo/ldsclerks > > -- Chuck Anderson cwha at ldskc.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.mormonstoday.com/pipermail/ldsclerks/attachments/20080213/44b6f678/attachment.html From clerk.crescent at gmail.com Wed Feb 13 17:45:22 2008 From: clerk.crescent at gmail.com (Alan Brown) Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 16:45:22 -0700 Subject: LDSC: Broadband connections In-Reply-To: <4772975CE1FA44478B61F33DE0E3A63386EE84E96C@harrow.exch.ad.byu.edu> References: <7.0.1.0.2.20080212110953.03d61d78@knology.net> <4772975CE1FA44478B61F33DE0E3A63386EE84E96C@harrow.exch.ad.byu.edu> Message-ID: <7378de6f0802131545s691be1edwd4cd49d514cee4a8@mail.gmail.com> On Feb 13, 2008 1:08 PM, Don Fairchild wrote: > This announcement is no different in principle than what they have been saying for months and that is that if there is a CCN already in the building then clerks can attach to it (assuming the Desktop 5.5). The HUGE difference is that this is an authoritative message from the Office of the Presiding Bishopric. Previously we only had memos from Clerk Support. Many of the FM Groups around the Church said that wasn't an authorized source, and they refused to let us connect administrative computers, even if all the other conditions were satisfied. So the various departments which were previously not in full agreement on policy will now be singing from the same hymnal, which is a good thing! Alan Brown Assistant Stake Clerk Sandy Utah Crescent Stake From lajacksn at gmail.com Wed Feb 13 22:15:24 2008 From: lajacksn at gmail.com (Larry Jackson) Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 22:15:24 -0600 Subject: LDSC: Broadband connections Message-ID: <47B3C05C.60107@gmail.com> Skip Taylor: I'm wondering if there's a place I could find and verify this letter/message online? _______________ The Stake President can get it electronically. Stake Presidents and Bishops will also receive a paper copy in their white envelopes in a week or two. And my stake president handed me the letter this evening. Larry Jackson From ctrskip at gmail.com Wed Feb 13 23:03:04 2008 From: ctrskip at gmail.com (Skip Taylor) Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 21:03:04 -0800 Subject: LDSC: Broadband connections In-Reply-To: <47B3C05C.60107@gmail.com> References: <47B3C05C.60107@gmail.com> Message-ID: <9805b5110802132103q3dcfb3c2le7f1e10a62cb1be9@mail.gmail.com> Thanks! On Feb 13, 2008 8:15 PM, Larry Jackson wrote: > > >From LDSClerks: Please see bottom of this message for subscription instructions and list URL. > Skip Taylor: > > I'm wondering if there's a place I could find and verify this > letter/message online? > > _______________ > > The Stake President can get it electronically. Stake Presidents and > Bishops will also receive a paper copy in their white envelopes in a > week or two. > > And my stake president handed me the letter this evening. > > Larry Jackson From simonsen at charter.net Thu Feb 14 00:23:24 2008 From: simonsen at charter.net (simonsen) Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 22:23:24 -0800 Subject: LDSC: Broadband Connection Message-ID: <47B3DE5C.6060701@charter.net> Here is a copy of an email I received. I forwarded it to our local FM Group and they agreed finally. We have since installed DSL connection from a Family History Center in a stake center to the stake clerks computer and 3 ward computers from a FM Group office in another building all hardwired. I do not like wireless. I hope this helps Richard Simonsen Santa Maria California Stake ***************************************************************************************** To: Stake Technology Specialists Subject: Desktop Image 5.5 Date sent: 23 Feb, 2007 Thank you for your time and efforts in installing the new Desktop Image 5.5 to units in your Stake. Although most units have completed this process, this message is to help clarify some questions regarding the new Desktop Image. 1. As the Desktop 5.5 instructions state, ?Please update all administrative computers in your stake or district within two weeks of receiving this notice.? Don?t be overly concerned if you do not complete all units within two weeks, do your best to complete them all in a timely manner. Don?t worry about the July date on the CD?s or the November date on the instructions document, as most units were not sent the Desktop 5.5 information until January or February. 2. As the instructions indicate, only install the Desktop 5.5 on standard computers (see pg. 12) or a computer that meets the minimum requirements (see pg. 6). 3. Beginning January 1, 2007, the new standard computer that is shipped to units is the Dell Optiplex 740. The Desktop 5.5 Image fails to install on the Dell 740. YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO INSTALL THE DESKTOP 5.5 ON THE DELL 740. Information regarding the future method for securing the Dell 740?s will be communicated in the near future. 4. This information is to clarify confusion regarding Church units using the ?internet.? The 'Internet Use Policy' is included in the Desktop 5.5 instructions so that authorized units using the internet are aware of the Internet Use Policy. A. ?Internet? connectivity on Church computers is only authorized if both of these conditions are met: - Secure Desktop 5.5 Image installed (or future method mentioned in item #3) - Located in the same physical building as an authorized Church Communication Network (CCN) with a Church provided hardware firewall *UNITS THAT DO NOT MEET BOTH CONDITIONS ARE NOT AUTHORIZED TO CONNECT TO THE ?INTERNET.? B. You will need to contact your Facilities Manager to verify whether your unit has an authorized CCN with firewall. C. The FM group must approve of physical changes to the building (if needed) to accommodate usage of the CCN. Costs incurred for enabling administrative computers in the building to access the CCN (i.e. cabling, wireless cards) may be available from your FM group. If funding is not available from your FM Group, the Stake budget may be used with Stake President approval. If funding is not available from the FM Group or the Stake budget, you will not be able to fund internet connectivity. Donated funds or equipment are NOT authorized for this purpose. From price_dc at hotmail.com Thu Feb 14 10:01:24 2008 From: price_dc at hotmail.com (David P.) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 16:01:24 -0000 Subject: LDSC: 1999 data? Message-ID: Just curious -- we did a send/receive last night and got a report that SL had processed our membership report for December 1999. Considering our branch wasn't in existence then, I wonder what that was all about. Ideas? Dave Price Mt. Pleasant IA From blazzard at gmail.com Thu Feb 14 08:23:33 2008 From: blazzard at gmail.com (byublazzard) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 14:23:33 -0000 Subject: LDSC: Broadband connections In-Reply-To: Message-ID: http://www.lds.org/letters - your Stake President has access to this pdf archive of letters - the most relevant to Book 1 and Book 2 stay on the list over time. I wonder when Book 2 will be released. > I know it says in the message where it came from, but I'm wondering if > there's a place I could find and verify this letter/message online? From rwood90 at clearwire.net Thu Feb 14 12:23:52 2008 From: rwood90 at clearwire.net (w5aj90) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 18:23:52 -0000 Subject: LDSC: Broadband connections In-Reply-To: <7378de6f0802131545s691be1edwd4cd49d514cee4a8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Alan has a direct hit on this one It is now offical! I contacted our local PM group and the letter has arrived since this is something we've been waiting for let me say: THANKS !!!!!!!!!!!! A very welcome path for improving the work! RW Odessa, TX --- In ldsclerks at yahoogroups.com, "Alan Brown" wrote: > > >From LDSClerks: Please see bottom of this message for subscription instructions and list URL. > On Feb 13, 2008 1:08 PM, Don Fairchild wrote: > > This announcement is no different in principle than what they have been saying for months and that is that if there is a CCN already in the building then clerks can attach to it (assuming the Desktop 5.5). > > The HUGE difference is that this is an authoritative message from the > Office of the Presiding Bishopric. Previously we only had memos from > Clerk Support. Many of the FM Groups around the Church said that > wasn't an authorized source, and they refused to let us connect > administrative computers, even if all the other conditions were > satisfied. > > So the various departments which were previously not in full agreement > on policy will now be singing from the same hymnal, which is a good > thing! > > Alan Brown > Assistant Stake Clerk > Sandy Utah Crescent Stake > _______________________________________________ > >From LDSClerks: Please do not send copyrighted material to LDSClerks. > See list info at: > http://lists.mormonstoday.com/listinfo/ldsclerks > From embunker817 at msn.com Sun Feb 17 22:03:21 2008 From: embunker817 at msn.com (Eric Bunker) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 21:03:21 -0700 Subject: LDSC: stake reorg Message-ID: Today, Elder Neil Andersen, Wilford Andersen, Craig Zwick and Robert Lees of the Seventy presided at our Special conference this weekend were they took the three Queen Creek Arizona Stakes and created two more. The meeting was held at the Red Mountain Institute Building at the 202 east of Power on E. McKellips in Mesa, AZ and broadcast via satellite to three stake centers and Five ward buildings in the Queen Creek Arizona area. We used the Red Mountain Building because it is a double chapel building with only one YSA ward using it on Sunday. It is not common to do a three-to-five split. Similar has been done before though. A few years ago they had a 6 to 9 in Las Vegas, a 3 to 6 in Texas and they redrew the whole state of New York a while back. It is probably not something we will ever be involved in again. We now have the Queen Creek Arizona, Queen Creek Arizona East, South, North and Queen Creek Arizona Chandler Heights Stakes. It has been an amazing weekend. The application for the division was reviewed by the both the Quorum of the Twelve and the First Presidency in some detail. It took a great deal of work to get to this point and much more lies ahead. Hopefully our rapid division rate will now slow down for a period of time and we can be more normal. In my stake alone, in 4 1/2 years we have been a presidency, we have processed 16 ward divisions, 4 stake divisions, built 3 stake centers and 6 ward buildings and have two more stake centers in the ground being built. What an amazing ride it has been to this point. Eric Clerk Queen Creek Arizona Chandler Heights Stake From Steve.Neeland at ingrambook.com Sun Feb 17 22:42:32 2008 From: Steve.Neeland at ingrambook.com (Neeland, Steve) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 22:42:32 -0600 Subject: LDSC: stake reorg Message-ID: <34D00262650E7645A20A26B937C2139F0200EEB0@IBC2K3EXCH.ingrambook.com> I remember the buzz there when they got their first stop light. Seems like yesterday... ----- Original Message ----- From: ldsclerks-bounces at lists.mormonstoday.com To: LDS Clerks Sent: Sun Feb 17 22:03:21 2008 Subject: LDSC: stake reorg >From LDSClerks: Please see bottom of this message for subscription instructions and list URL. Today, Elder Neil Andersen, Wilford Andersen, Craig Zwick and Robert Lees of the Seventy presided at our Special conference this weekend were they took the three Queen Creek Arizona Stakes and created two more. The meeting was held at the Red Mountain Institute Building at the 202 east of Power on E. McKellips in Mesa, AZ and broadcast via satellite to three stake centers and Five ward buildings in the Queen Creek Arizona area. We used the Red Mountain Building because it is a double chapel building with only one YSA ward using it on Sunday. It is not common to do a three-to-five split. Similar has been done before though. A few years ago they had a 6 to 9 in Las Vegas, a 3 to 6 in Texas and they redrew the whole state of New York a while back. It is probably not something we will ever be involved in again. We now have the Queen Creek Arizona, Queen Creek Arizona East, South, North and Queen Creek Arizona Chandler Heights Stakes. It has been an amazing weekend. The application for the division was reviewed by the both the Quorum of the Twelve and the First Presidency in some detail. It took a great deal of work to get to this point and much more lies ahead. Hopefully our rapid division rate will now slow down for a period of time and we can be more normal. In my stake alone, in 4 1/2 years we have been a presidency, we have processed 16 ward divisions, 4 stake divisions, built 3 stake centers and 6 ward buildings and have two more stake centers in the ground being built. What an amazing ride it has been to this point. Eric Clerk Queen Creek Arizona Chandler Heights Stake _______________________________________________ >From LDSClerks: Please do not send copyrighted material to LDSClerks. See list info at: http://lists.mormonstoday.com/listinfo/ldsclerks From clerk.crescent at gmail.com Tue Feb 19 12:34:50 2008 From: clerk.crescent at gmail.com (Alan Brown) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 11:34:50 -0700 Subject: LDSC: Broadband connections In-Reply-To: References: <7.0.1.0.2.20080212110953.03d61d78@knology.net> Message-ID: <7378de6f0802191034t30fcc2b7ge955f5fb90ddf7a3@mail.gmail.com> On Feb 13, 2008 1:40 PM, Skip Taylor wrote: > I know it says in the message where it came from, but I'm wondering if > there's a place I could find and verify this letter/message online? The letter has now been posted on the Stake Technology Specialist site (staketech.lds.org) at lds.org, under Letters and Policies. The specific link is http://www.lds.org/Static%20Files/PDF/STS/Letters/English/06809_000_notice[1].pdf From clerk at plsgroupinc.net Tue Feb 19 21:10:09 2008 From: clerk at plsgroupinc.net (Stake Clerk) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 20:10:09 -0700 Subject: LDSC: Solemn Assembly In-Reply-To: <7378de6f0802191034t30fcc2b7ge955f5fb90ddf7a3@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi, My stake president is trying to find out what session of conference will include the solemn assembly. From the little bit of research I've done, there's no set session. Can anyone verify that, or care to guess at what session the solemn assembly will take place? Thanks. From russellhltn at gmail.com Tue Feb 19 21:30:18 2008 From: russellhltn at gmail.com (Russell Hltn) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 17:30:18 -1000 Subject: LDSC: Solemn Assembly In-Reply-To: References: <7378de6f0802191034t30fcc2b7ge955f5fb90ddf7a3@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Are you referring to the sustaining? On Feb 19, 2008 5:10 PM, Stake Clerk wrote: > >From LDSClerks: Please see bottom of this message for subscription instructions and list URL. > Hi, > > My stake president is trying to find out what session of conference will > include the solemn assembly. From the little bit of research I've done, > there's no set session. Can anyone verify that, or care to guess at what > session the solemn assembly will take place? > From clerk at plsgroupinc.net Tue Feb 19 22:24:10 2008 From: clerk at plsgroupinc.net (Stake Clerk) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 21:24:10 -0700 Subject: LDSC: Solemn Assembly In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Yes. . . -----Original Message----- From: ldsclerks-bounces at lists.mormonstoday.com [mailto:ldsclerks-bounces at lists.mormonstoday.com] On Behalf Of Russell Hltn Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 8:30 PM To: Discussion for LDS Church Ward/Stake Clerks/Secretaries Subject: Re: LDSC: Solemn Assembly >From LDSClerks: Please see bottom of this message for subscription instructions and list URL. Are you referring to the sustaining? On Feb 19, 2008 5:10 PM, Stake Clerk wrote: > >From LDSClerks: Please see bottom of this message for subscription instructions and list URL. > Hi, > > My stake president is trying to find out what session of conference will > include the solemn assembly. From the little bit of research I've done, > there's no set session. Can anyone verify that, or care to guess at what > session the solemn assembly will take place? From lajacksn at gmail.com Tue Feb 19 22:20:15 2008 From: lajacksn at gmail.com (Larry Jackson) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 22:20:15 -0600 Subject: LDSC: Solemn Assembly In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <47BBAA7F.9020008@gmail.com> Stake Clerk: My stake president is trying to find out what session of conference will include the solemn assembly. _______________ Good luck. [grin] You are correct that there is no set session. From experience, the regular sustaining and releasing normally takes place at the Saturday afternoon session. Since there will be a special solemn assembly this time, if I get sufficiently bored, I will go back through the conference reports for the last few changes of prophets and figure out if there is a pattern. My memory fails me on this point. Don't hold your breath, though. General Conference comes before taxes are due, so I might not get the research done in time. I think the solemn assembly has been held during the Saturday morning session in the past. On the other hand, I know for certain that there have been conferences where there were talks at the Saturday morning session about the solemn assembly, and then the solemn assembly was actually held at the Saturday afternoon session. For now, I would put my nickel on Saturday afternoon. I expect that one of the Saturday morning speakers will refer to it, and that is the first we will officially know, at least those of us out here in the hinterlands. I am fairly certain that President Packer has already made the conference speaking assignments, but I don't think I will get a chance to check with him before April. Larry Jackson From lajacksn at gmail.com Tue Feb 19 22:22:23 2008 From: lajacksn at gmail.com (Larry Jackson) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 22:22:23 -0600 Subject: LDSC: Solemn Assembly In-Reply-To: References: <7378de6f0802191034t30fcc2b7ge955f5fb90ddf7a3@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <47BBAAFF.5030906@gmail.com> Russell Houlton: Are you referring to the sustaining? _______________ Yes, I believe he was. But it will be a solemn assembly this time because of the new prophet, rather than just a normal sustaining. Larry Jackson From embunker817 at msn.com Tue Feb 19 22:55:01 2008 From: embunker817 at msn.com (Eric Bunker) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 21:55:01 -0700 Subject: LDSC: Solemn Assembly References: Message-ID: When I was a boy, general conference lasted a week with a Primary, MIA and Relief Society Sessions on Tuesday - Thursday. The general sessions went from Friday to Sunday. If my feeble memory serves me right. When Joseph Fielding Smith was sustained as a prophet in 1970, that the session was held on Monday and it was a true Solemn Assembly, meaning that the whole of the meeting was occupied by it and the whole general leadership was sustained and that individuals were sustained by quorums one at a time. This was not too bad as it was just the First Presidency, The Quorum of the Twelve, the Presiding Bishopric, a handful of assistants to the twelve and the First Council of the Seventy, (just 7 men as the quorums of the Seventy were in the stakes), plus all the auxiliary leadership positions. Since that time they have done the sustaining on the Saturday Afternoon Sessions, except for the last few times, it has been the first Session of Saturday but they were only sustaining new Apostles and Seventy. We use to sustain every year in General Conference, Stake Conference, and Ward Conference, the whole of the General Leadership along with the whole of the Stake and Ward Leadership for those conferences. But because of growth, that became too long and cumbersome. My guess it that it will occur in the first session of Saturday. Eric Clerk Queen Creek Arizona Chandler Heights Stake ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 8:10 PM Subject: LDSC: Solemn Assembly > >From LDSClerks: Please see bottom of this message for subscription > >instructions and list URL. > Hi, > > My stake president is trying to find out what session of conference will > include the solemn assembly. From the little bit of research I've done, > there's no set session. Can anyone verify that, or care to guess at what > session the solemn assembly will take place? > > Thanks. > > From russellhltn at gmail.com Tue Feb 19 23:04:37 2008 From: russellhltn at gmail.com (Russell Hltn) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 19:04:37 -1000 Subject: LDSC: Solemn Assembly In-Reply-To: <47BBAA7F.9020008@gmail.com> References: <47BBAA7F.9020008@gmail.com> Message-ID: On Feb 19, 2008 6:20 PM, Larry Jackson wrote: > For now, I would put my nickel on Saturday afternoon. I'll bet on Saturday. Like others have said, it seems that usually it's in the afternoon, but lately it's been in the morning. Seems like it makes more sense to start the conference that way. I feel lucky. I'll put a dime on Saturday Morning. From lajacksn at gmail.com Tue Feb 19 23:20:07 2008 From: lajacksn at gmail.com (Larry Jackson) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 23:20:07 -0600 Subject: LDSC: Solemn Assembly In-Reply-To: References: <47BBAA7F.9020008@gmail.com> Message-ID: <47BBB887.1030106@gmail.com> Russell Houlton: I feel lucky. I'll put a dime on Saturday Morning. _______________ Your dime trumps my nickel. Taxes can wait. Curiosity killed the cat, etc. Recently (since 1972), except for President Benson, they have all been first thing. The solemn assembly for President Lee was held in October 1972 conference at the Friday morning session (they were still holding general sessions for three days back then). The solemn assembly for President Kimball was held in April 1974 conference at the Saturday morning session. The solemn assembly for President Benson was in April 1986 conference at the Sunday afternoon session. The solemn assembly for President Hunter was in October 1994 on Saturday morning. The solemn assembly for President Hinckley was in April 1995 on Saturday morning. My nickel moves to Saturday morning. Larry Jackson From mark_werner at byu.edu Tue Feb 19 22:54:26 2008 From: mark_werner at byu.edu (Mark Werner) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 21:54:26 -0700 Subject: LDSC: Solemn Assembly In-Reply-To: <47BBAA7F.9020008@gmail.com> References: <47BBAA7F.9020008@gmail.com> Message-ID: <007201c8737c$ab12e3e0$0138aba0$@edu> My first answer would also have been Saturday afternoon. However, here's the (relatively) recent record: President Hinckley, Saturday morning President Hunter, Saturday morning President Benson, Sunday afternoon President Kimball, Saturday morning (but general conference was also held on Fridays back then) Mark Werner -----Original Message----- My stake president is trying to find out what session of conference will include the solemn assembly. _______________ Good luck. [grin] You are correct that there is no set session. From experience, the regular sustaining and releasing normally takes place at the Saturday afternoon session. Since there will be a special solemn assembly this time, if I get sufficiently bored, I will go back through the conference reports for the last few changes of prophets and figure out if there is a pattern. My memory fails me on this point. Don't hold your breath, though. General Conference comes before taxes are due, so I might not get the research done in time. I think the solemn assembly has been held during the Saturday morning session in the past. On the other hand, I know for certain that there have been conferences where there were talks at the Saturday morning session about the solemn assembly, and then the solemn assembly was actually held at the Saturday afternoon session. For now, I would put my nickel on Saturday afternoon. I expect that one of the Saturday morning speakers will refer to it, and that is the first we will officially know, at least those of us out here in the hinterlands. I am fairly certain that President Packer has already made the conference speaking assignments, but I don't think I will get a chance to check with him before April. Larry Jackson From dave at richmans.org Wed Feb 20 10:21:06 2008 From: dave at richmans.org (Dave Richman) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 08:21:06 -0800 Subject: LDSC: MLS 2.8 Beta In-Reply-To: <1203509493.395.76416.m45@yahoogroups.com> References: <1203509493.395.76416.m45@yahoogroups.com> Message-ID: Has anyone installed the new 2.8 version yet... ? Any issues..? - - - Dave Richman "Reality is something you rise above." -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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One little change I really like is that on Income and Expense Reports, you can change the time period without having it reset the categories that are selected. This makes it easier to look at a set of data for various time periods. There are also a few other odds and end that have been improved. To my eye, beta 7 looks like it's just about ready to ship, but I obviously don't know all the factors that go into the decision. Alan Brown Assistant Stake Clerk Sandy Utah Crescent Stake From eric.s.scott at gmail.com Thu Feb 21 12:15:48 2008 From: eric.s.scott at gmail.com (Eric.S.Scott) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 13:15:48 -0500 Subject: LDSC: MLS 2.8 beta Message-ID: <000901c874b5$cae83fa0$ba25e786@EricSScott01> From bogus@does.not.exist.com Tue Feb 12 09:33:39 2008 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 15:33:39 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: expected to be wrapped up with final bug/error submissions by next Monday.... so a week or 2 after that we can expect those 88-odd megabytes to be fed down the dialup pipe.... Need permission from stake level to apply the beta, which I hope to get shortly, and that will hopefully shorten the update's download time when it happens. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I doubt if the update will be anywhere near that big. The file on the website is the entire install package, not an update. That's why it's so large. From russellhltn at gmail.com Thu Feb 21 16:12:08 2008 From: russellhltn at gmail.com (Russell Hltn) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 12:12:08 -1000 Subject: LDSC: Solemn Assembly In-Reply-To: <200802212103.m1LL3AJk000870@colton.byuh.edu> References: <200802212103.m1LL3AJk000870@colton.byuh.edu> Message-ID: I don't know. They seemed to have moved General Conference away from "closest to April 6" to "First weekend in April". (This year it's one in the same.) On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 11:03 AM, Don Colton wrote: > I just noticed that April 6 is a Sunday. Maybe they will put the SA > on April 6 instead of Saturday morning. (Do they notice things like > that?) From clerk at bradtek.com Fri Feb 22 09:17:44 2008 From: clerk at bradtek.com (Eric B) Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 15:17:44 -0000 Subject: LDSC: MLS 2.8 beta In-Reply-To: <000901c874b5$cae83fa0$ba25e786@EricSScott01> Message-ID: When the final release of 2.8 comes out, I would think it will be available from the download site (instead of having to install the beta version). I seem to remember doing this when the final version of 2.7 was first released. > From the download website, it appears that any bugs in the final release are > expected to be wrapped up with final bug/error submissions by next > Monday.... so a week or 2 after that we can expect those 88-odd megabytes > to be fed down the dialup pipe.... Need permission from stake level to > apply the beta, which I hope to get shortly, and that will hopefully shorten > the update's download time when it happens. > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: winmail.dat > Type: application/ms-tnef > Size: 1410 bytes > Desc: not available > Url : http://lists.mormonstoday.com/pipermail/ldsclerks/attachments/20080221 /e94bf185/attachment.bin > _______________________________________________ > >From LDSClerks: Please do not send copyrighted material to LDSClerks. > See list info at: > http://lists.mormonstoday.com/listinfo/ldsclerks > From dave at richmans.org Fri Feb 22 13:17:03 2008 From: dave at richmans.org (Dave Richman) Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 11:17:03 -0800 Subject: LDSC: MLS 2.8 Beta In-Reply-To: References: <1203509493.395.76416.m45@yahoogroups.com> Message-ID: Just wanted to follow-up the upgrade to 2.8 beta went without a hitch last night. Tested reconcile, reports, membership, trasmit... all worked well. I would recommend downloading on another system with broadband and transferring to church PC via a flash drive. The new Financial Statement feature is well VERY convenient. No longer do I have to wait for Bishops to find it and pass it to one of the clerks. They are all just there in the system ready to print. My next project is installing the Desktop Image and wireless card so that dial-up can go the way of the rotary phone. Will be very nice to have an internet connection on Sunday afternoon. --- Dave Richman Asst. Ward Clerk - Finance Southworth Ward On Feb 20, 2008, at 8:21 AM, Dave Richman wrote: > Has anyone installed the new 2.8 version yet... ? > > Any issues..? > > - - - > Dave Richman > > "Reality is something you rise above." > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.mormonstoday.com/pipermail/ldsclerks/attachments/20080222/5e762bad/attachment.htm From russellhltn at gmail.com Fri Feb 22 23:06:10 2008 From: russellhltn at gmail.com (Russell Hltn) Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 19:06:10 -1000 Subject: LDSC: MLS 2.8 released Message-ID: Found in my mailbox: ------------------------------ We have produced new Member and Leader Services (MLS) software, version 2.8. This new version will be released on Sunday March 2nd. We anticipate that the download will be approximately 30-40 minutes over a dial up connection. You will have the option of opting out of performing the download of MLS 2.8 3 times until March 9th. Beginning March 9th the patch for MLS version 2.8 will be forced down to your machine during a send/receive. We will also not patch any units on March 2nd or March 9th from the hours of 11 A.M. (MST) to 2 P.M. (MST) because of resource constraints. Regular MLS transmissions will work fine during this time. This version of MLS (2.8) needs to be installed before the end of the first quarter to support priesthood council directed changes to the Quarterly Reports. We recommend doing a send/receive first thing when you get to the clerks office until this version is officially released to avoid any downloads during tithing transmissions. ------------------------ It goes on to say that it can be downloaded from the usual place, but I don't think the site has been updated yet as it's still showing 2.8 as beta. From pete_arnett at hotmail.com Sat Feb 23 08:12:39 2008 From: pete_arnett at hotmail.com (pete_arnett) Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 14:12:39 -0000 Subject: LDSC: MLS 2.8 - Bank Statements via MLS Message-ID: Got this message from headquarters: "When the 2.8 software is loaded it will read them into the finance section of the software. Each month we will now send you your statements via MLS". The new version will be released on Sunday, 02Mar and downloaded to everyone on Sunday, 09Mar From bogus@does.not.exist.com Sat Feb 23 08:19:25 2008 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 14:19:25 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: It appears that unit's will find their Nov 2007, Dec 2007 and Jan 2008 bank statements in new version of MLS 2.8 From mike_fauber at ameritech.net Sat Feb 23 08:13:45 2008 From: mike_fauber at ameritech.net (mfauber2) Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 14:13:45 -0000 Subject: LDSC: MLS 2.8 Beta In-Reply-To: Message-ID: We are in the process of hooking up the admin computers in our stake to the High Speed Internet in those buildings that already have it for FHC use. Even though one of those buildings has wireless access our FM group says that their instructions were to hard wire all the admin computers using CAT6 cable ( no wireless ). Of the 3 buildings involved, one ( with 2 wards ) is already complete, the second ( with the stake and 3 wards ) is almost done ( completion scheduled for Monday 2/25/08 ), the third ( with 1 ward ) will be completed the week of 2/25/08. One of the FHCs that I support has been using MLS ( finance only version, over DSL ) for several months now and the improvement over dialup is impressive. Mike Fauber Stake Technology Specialist Dayton OH Stake --- In ldsclerks at yahoogroups.com, Dave Richman wrote: clerks. They are all just there in the system ready to print. > > My next project is installing the Desktop Image and wireless card so > that dial-up can go the way of the rotary phone. Will be very nice to > have an internet connection on Sunday afternoon. > > > --- > Dave Richman > Asst. Ward Clerk - Finance > Southworth Ward From drepouille at hotmail.com Sat Feb 23 11:10:07 2008 From: drepouille at hotmail.com (Dana Repouille) Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 11:10:07 -0600 Subject: LDSC: MLS 2.8 Beta In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Dayton Ohio? My son is stationed at WPAFB, and attends the Fairborn Ward, although I've coaxed him to try the YSA Ward in Dayton. Last year, my FM told me he didn't want to pull cable. He'd rather have me use wireless, especially since all wireless expenses would come out of the stake budget rather than his FM budget. He just remodeled the Atlantic Iowa Branch chapel. The installed RJ45 jacks all over the building, and installed a huge patch panel in the utility room. There are now so many connections that we can't possibly connect all the jacks in the chapel at the same time using the Cisco Pix and the eight-port switch. Oh well, 11 ports will do fine for now. Dana in Council Bluffs -----Original Message----- From: ldsclerks-bounces at lists.mormonstoday.com [mailto:ldsclerks-bounces at lists.mormonstoday.com] On Behalf Of mfauber2 Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 8:14 AM To: ldsclerks at lists.mormonstoday.com Subject: Re: LDSC: MLS 2.8 Beta >From LDSClerks: Please see bottom of this message for subscription instructions and list URL. - - We are in the process of hooking up the admin computers in our stake to the High Speed Internet in those buildings that already have it for FHC use. Even though one of those buildings has wireless access our FM group says that their instructions were to hard wire all the admin computers using CAT6 cable ( no wireless ). Of the 3 buildings involved, one ( with 2 wards ) is already complete, the second ( with the stake and 3 wards ) is almost done ( completion scheduled for Monday 2/25/08 ), the third ( with 1 ward ) will be completed the week of 2/25/08. One of the FHCs that I support has been using MLS ( finance only version, over DSL ) for several months now and the improvement over dialup is impressive. Mike Fauber Stake Technology Specialist Dayton OH Stake No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.9/1294 - Release Date: 2/22/2008 6:39 PM From jerryrose at cox.net Sat Feb 23 13:25:40 2008 From: jerryrose at cox.net (Jerry Rose) Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 13:25:40 -0600 Subject: LDSC: MLS 2.8 released In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Got the same notice and went to the download site. MLS 2.7.3 is still there as the primary download. MLS 2.8 is still listed as "MLS 2.8 Beta Test." As I recall, we had the same confusing issue the last time there was a large update. Stake Clerk in Nebraska -----Original Message----- From: Russell Hltn Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 11:06 PM Found in my mailbox: ------------------------------ We have produced new Member and Leader Services (MLS) software, version 2.8. From lajacksn at gmail.com Sat Feb 23 14:32:42 2008 From: lajacksn at gmail.com (Larry Jackson) Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 14:32:42 -0600 Subject: LDSC: MLS 2.8 released In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <47C082EA.4000704@gmail.com> Jerry Rose: MLS 2.8 is still listed as "MLS 2.8 Beta Test." As I recall, we had the same confusing issue the last time there was a large update. _______________ Three options. Same as last time. Take the big 2.8 upgrade download starting March 2nd and not later than March 9th. Wait until 2.8 (final) is released at the download site and then run around the stake trying to beat the clock before the 9th. Upgrade to the 2.8 beta now, and take a small patch starting on the 2nd. On a dialup, I vote for door number three, because running all over the stake here is a month-long process, not a one-day or one-week process. If and when we finally get two of our building machines on high speed, door number one would not be so bad. Larry Jackson From pete_arnett at hotmail.com Sat Feb 23 14:35:32 2008 From: pete_arnett at hotmail.com (pete_arnett) Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 20:35:32 -0000 Subject: LDSC: MLS 2.8 Relased and Downloaded Message-ID: One of our Bishops emailed the following this a.m., "Just to let you know that I was working on the PC on Saturday and the new version 2.8 downloaded automatically." From russellhltn at gmail.com Sat Feb 23 15:10:21 2008 From: russellhltn at gmail.com (Russell Hltn) Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 11:10:21 -1000 Subject: LDSC: MLS 2.8 released In-Reply-To: <47C082EA.4000704@gmail.com> References: <47C082EA.4000704@gmail.com> Message-ID: And while my stake is smaller, I'm opting for door number 1 - let it come via dial-up. Why? Our dial-up is decent. And at the expected 30-40 minutes download, I'd spend as much in round trip travel time. And the download can be minimized by doing a send/receive and heading off to the meeting. There's nothing I can do about my travel time. But if you are going to travel, it would be a good idea to take along the anti-virus update. It's supposed to be done at least once a quarter. On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 10:32 AM, Larry Jackson wrote: > > Three options. Same as last time. > > Take the big 2.8 upgrade download starting March 2nd and not later than > March 9th. > > Wait until 2.8 (final) is released at the download site and then run > around the stake trying to beat the clock before the 9th. > > Upgrade to the 2.8 beta now, and take a small patch starting on the 2nd. > > On a dialup, I vote for door number three, because running all over the > stake here is a month-long process, not a one-day or one-week process. > > If and when we finally get two of our building machines on high speed, > door number one would not be so bad. > > Larry Jackson > From russellhltn at gmail.com Sat Feb 23 15:12:36 2008 From: russellhltn at gmail.com (Russell Hltn) Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 11:12:36 -1000 Subject: LDSC: MLS 2.8 - Bank Statements via MLS In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Feb 22 23:13:14 2008 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 05:13:14 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: the machines, but until MLS 2.8, you would have to dig around manually to find them. On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 4:12 AM, pete_arnett wrote: > From a comment posted at http://tech.lds.org/forum/ > It appears that unit's will find their Nov 2007, Dec 2007 and Jan 2008 > bank statements in new version of MLS 2.8 > From lajacksn at gmail.com Sat Feb 23 15:28:26 2008 From: lajacksn at gmail.com (Larry Jackson) Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 15:28:26 -0600 Subject: LDSC: MLS 2.8 - Bank Statements via MLS In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <47C08FFA.3040503@gmail.com> Russell Houlton: From what I'm hearing, the statements have already been downloaded to the machines, but until MLS 2.8, you would have to dig around manually to find them. _______________ This is intriguing. During every audit, we have to go to great pains in one or more of our units to retrieve lost monthly financial statements. If I had know this, we could have saved ourselves and Salt Lake a whole lot of grief each six months. Have the monthly financial statements actually been there (and will they be there), or is MLS 2.8 merely adding the option to request them from Salt Lake in a manner other than the usual MLS message or phone call we had to use in the past, followed by the bother of the stake president to retrieve them from his official Church e-mail account? I think it is a wonderful idea. The next step is probably that they will not even send out the statements in the first place. We will just print our own each month. Larry Jackson From russellhltn at gmail.com Sat Feb 23 16:37:03 2008 From: russellhltn at gmail.com (Russell Hltn) Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 12:37:03 -1000 Subject: LDSC: MLS 2.8 - Bank Statements via MLS In-Reply-To: <47C08FFA.3040503@gmail.com> References: <47C08FFA.3040503@gmail.com> Message-ID: It sounds like SLC has only started pushing the statements down in the last few months. Maybe less. MLS 2.8 has the ability to pull them up. On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 11:28 AM, Larry Jackson wrote: > Have the monthly financial statements actually been there (and will they > be there), or is MLS 2.8 merely adding the option to request them from > Salt Lake in a manner other than the usual MLS message or phone call we > had to use in the past, followed by the bother of the stake president to > retrieve them from his official Church e-mail account? From clerk at plsgroupinc.net Sun Feb 24 15:45:46 2008 From: clerk at plsgroupinc.net (Stake Clerk) Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2008 14:45:46 -0700 Subject: LDSC: MLS 2.8 - Bank Statements via MLS Message-ID: We're not on 2.8 yet, but I searched for PDF files on our C drive, and in the folder: C:\AFARIA\INBOUND\Unit#\MLSSWAP were three PDF files with a modified date of 2/20/08, for, believe it or not, January, February, and October 2007. Why those three, I don't know. I for one will really appreciate having the statements available this way; I print and deliver statements to units in our stake on a regular basis. . . From pete_arnett at hotmail.com Sun Feb 24 18:43:58 2008 From: pete_arnett at hotmail.com (pete_arnett) Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 00:43:58 -0000 Subject: LDSC: MLS 2.8 - Upgraded today and Bank Statements In-Reply-To: Message-ID: We were upgraded to MLS 2.8 by headquarters today We now have the past year of bank statements and have the ability to request a previous bank statement From don_fairchild at byu.edu Sun Feb 24 22:50:31 2008 From: don_fairchild at byu.edu (Don Fairchild) Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2008 21:50:31 -0700 Subject: LDSC: Setting up a Test Stake In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4772975CE1FA44478B61F33DE0E3A6338E492A97AF@harrow.exch.ad.byu.edu> You all probably know this, but I didn't. You know how you can set up a test ward by going into the unit tab in MLS System Options and adding ward/branch unit number 108 in stake 2224445? It made me wonder what would happen if you added stake/district number 2224445. It worked! Now, in addition to our test ward, we have a test stake complete with two units (one of which is unit 108). I'm guessing we could probably set up the other test unit too. Don Fairchild Assistant Stake Clerk Orem Utah Windsor Stake From russellhltn at gmail.com Sun Feb 24 23:37:38 2008 From: russellhltn at gmail.com (Russell Hltn) Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2008 19:37:38 -1000 Subject: LDSC: Setting up a Test Stake In-Reply-To: <4772975CE1FA44478B61F33DE0E3A6338E492A97AF@harrow.exch.ad.byu.edu> References: <4772975CE1FA44478B61F33DE0E3A6338E492A97AF@harrow.exch.ad.byu.edu> Message-ID: What unit number is the second ward? Is it a number you made up? If so, it may attempt to do a real send/receive on that ward. On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 6:50 PM, Don Fairchild wrote: Now, in addition to our test ward, we have a test stake complete with two units (one of which is unit 108). I'm guessing we could probably set up the other test unit too. From don_fairchild at byu.edu Mon Feb 25 00:12:09 2008 From: don_fairchild at byu.edu (Don Fairchild) Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2008 23:12:09 -0700 Subject: LDSC: Setting up a Test Stake In-Reply-To: References: <4772975CE1FA44478B61F33DE0E3A6338E492A97AF@harrow.exch.ad.byu.edu> Message-ID: <4772975CE1FA44478B61F33DE0E3A6338E492A97B5@harrow.exch.ad.byu.edu> Russell Hltn wanted to know: What unit number is the second ward? Is it a number you made up? If so, it may attempt to do a real send/receive on that ward. The other unit is number 9999949 (the La Proba 2nd ward - goes along with the unit 108, the La Proba 1st ward). And, no, I did not make that up. It was just there when I added the sample stake unit. By the way, I did attempt to add the other unit (9999949) to MLS like you can 108. However, unlike 108, you get the same screen you get when adding a new ward to a PC where you await a data transmission from SLC before it's really active. And, yes, it does want to a real send/receive with that so I don't recommend it. Don Fairchild Assistant Stake Clerk Orem Utah Windsor Stake From lajacksn at gmail.com Thu Feb 28 00:10:04 2008 From: lajacksn at gmail.com (Larry Jackson) Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 00:10:04 -0600 Subject: LDSC: MLS 2.8 - Bank Statements via MLS In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <47C6503C.2020605@gmail.com> Russell Houlton: From what I'm hearing, the statements have already been downloaded to the machines, but until MLS 2.8, you would have to dig around manually to find them. _______________ We installed the 2.8 beta this evening and, sure enough, every statement for 2007 and January 2008 is available to review. Larry Jackson From don at colton.byuh.edu Thu Feb 28 02:40:26 2008 From: don at colton.byuh.edu (Don Colton) Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 22:40:26 -1000 Subject: LDSC: Solemn Assembly first session Message-ID: <200802280840.m1S8eQHp030663@colton.byuh.edu> Elder Nelson mentioned in a meeting at BYUH that the Solemn Assembly would be the first session of conference. I assume this means Saturday Morning. From pete_arnett at hotmail.com Thu Feb 28 04:03:12 2008 From: pete_arnett at hotmail.com (pete_arnett) Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 10:03:12 -0000 Subject: LDSC: MLS 2.8 Summary of What is New Message-ID: MLS 2.8 Summary of What is New 1) Confidential Forms and now you can do a save with a password (new) 2) Print Certifications and Forms (some may be new) 3) MLS System Options for Calendar to Year Budget (new) - Default is unchecked 4) Other donations did show on the Donor Official Tax Statement when tested with Test Unit (new) From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Feb 22 23:13:14 2008 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 05:13:14 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: 5) Financial (Bank) Statements for the past year (new) 6) Quarterly Report Changes MLS 2.8 Release Notes The changes were detailed in a letter dated 25 February 2008 to bishops and stake presidents. There is now a lot more detail required on recent converts, with specific data entered for each convert by name. This new information must be entered in the 1st Quarter 2008 report (due April 15), so everyone has to be on MLS 2.8 before then (which will certainly happen now). Last edited by Alan_Brown : Yesterday at 12:51 PM. Reason: clarified release notes version 7) New Member Report has been changed so that it no longer provides information on New Member lessons taught, Church attendance, and endowment status. The Bishop's Confidential Copy of the New Member Report is not longer available. The above items have also been posted to LDS Technology Forums (tech.lds.org/forum) Please add what you have found From clerk at plsgroupinc.net Fri Feb 29 20:10:16 2008 From: clerk at plsgroupinc.net (Stake Clerk) Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 19:10:16 -0700 Subject: LDSC: Internet w/o Family History Center In-Reply-To: <47C6503C.2020605@gmail.com> Message-ID: This came from the Presiding Bishopric, dated February 29, 2008: Effective February 29, 2008, stake presidents in the North America Southwest Area may authorize and fund, out of local unit budgets, broadband Internet connections for meetinghouses within their stakes. Before installing, please contact your local facility manager for instructions. Equipment will be provided by headquarters for security and filtering. These protections alone do not completely eliminate the risks associated with the Internet. Stake and district presidents are responsible for Internet use in buildings within their boundaries. Stake presidents, stake technology specialists and facility managers should review and implement the guidelines located at clerk.lds.org. After reviewing the these guidelines, if you have any questions please call (801-240-5857) From lajacksn at gmail.com Fri Feb 29 20:17:03 2008 From: lajacksn at gmail.com (Larry Jackson) Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 20:17:03 -0600 Subject: LDSC: Internet w/o Family History Center In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <47C8BC9F.8030000@gmail.com> Stake Clerk: Effective February 29, 2008, stake presidents in the North America Southwest Area may authorize and fund, out of local unit budgets, broadband Internet connections for meetinghouses within their stakes. _______________ After installation, would these become reimbursable phone charges, or is the stake on the hook long-term? We have one building still running at 14.4 kbps, so this is intriguing. Larry Jackson From rpyne at kinfolk.org Fri Feb 29 20:21:26 2008 From: rpyne at kinfolk.org (Richard Pyne) Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 19:21:26 -0700 Subject: LDSC: Internet w/o Family History Center In-Reply-To: References: <47C6503C.2020605@gmail.com>, Message-ID: <47C85B36.4866.21F859@rpyne.kinfolk.org> Woo Hoo!!! I wonder how fast it will spread??? --Richard On 29 Feb 2008 at 19:10, Stake Clerk wrote: >From LDSClerks: Please see bottom of this message for subscription >instructions and list URL. - - This came from the Presiding Bishopric, dated February 29, 2008: Effective February 29, 2008, stake presidents in the North America Southwest Area may authorize and fund, out of local unit budgets, broadband Internet connections for meetinghouses within their stakes. Before installing, please contact your local facility manager for instructions. Equipment will be provided by headquarters for security and filtering. These protections alone do not completely eliminate the risks associated with the Internet. Stake and district presidents are responsible for Internet use in buildings within their boundaries. Stake presidents, stake technology specialists and facility managers should review and implement the guidelines located at clerk.lds.org. After reviewing the these guidelines, if you have any questions please call (801-240-5857) _______________________________________________ >From LDSClerks: Please do not send copyrighted material to LDSClerks. See list info at: http://lists.mormonstoday.com/listinfo/ldsclerks -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.1/1301 - Release Date: 2/27/2008 8:35 AM From don at colton.byuh.edu Fri Feb 29 20:42:57 2008 From: don at colton.byuh.edu (Don Colton) Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 16:42:57 -1000 Subject: LDSC: Internet w/o Family History Center Message-ID: <200803010242.m212gvVk021946@colton.byuh.edu> Effective February 29, 2008, stake presidents in the North America Southwest Area may authorize and fund, out of local unit budgets, broadband Internet connections for meetinghouses within their stakes. How much faster is it? My typical connect is ten minutes. Don From lajacksn at gmail.com Fri Feb 29 20:44:47 2008 From: lajacksn at gmail.com (Larry Jackson) Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 20:44:47 -0600 Subject: LDSC: Internet w/o Family History Center In-Reply-To: <47C8BC9F.8030000@gmail.com> References: <47C8BC9F.8030000@gmail.com> Message-ID: <47C8C31F.9090509@gmail.com> I answer my own question: ... would these become reimbursable phone charges, or is the stake on the hook long-term? from the guidelines. The stake gets the whole enchilada. The guidelines also state that the line must be a new line, and not piggyback on an existing phone line. That means I cannot add DSL to the clerk's line that is there. I have to have a new line installed for DSL (or whatever). Larry Jackson From lajacksn at gmail.com Fri Feb 29 20:46:59 2008 From: lajacksn at gmail.com (Larry Jackson) Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 20:46:59 -0600 Subject: LDSC: Internet w/o Family History Center In-Reply-To: <200803010242.m212gvVk021946@colton.byuh.edu> References: <200803010242.m212gvVk021946@colton.byuh.edu> Message-ID: <47C8C3A3.7070801@gmail.com> Don Colton: How much faster is it? My typical connect is ten minutes. _______________ Would you like to connect in one? [grin] If you are on a 35.5 kbps or 48.8 kbps dialup, and you go to the slowest available DSL speed in this area offered by ATT, you would go more than 10 times as fast. Larry Jackson From rpyne at kinfolk.org Fri Feb 29 21:01:21 2008 From: rpyne at kinfolk.org (Richard Pyne) Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 20:01:21 -0700 Subject: LDSC: Internet w/o Family History Center In-Reply-To: <200803010242.m212gvVk021946@colton.byuh.edu> References: <200803010242.m212gvVk021946@colton.byuh.edu> Message-ID: <47C86491.30821.4682D7@rpyne.kinfolk.org> The BIG advantage is not so much the speed (which is very nice) but the ability to access the Church web sites such as: lds.org ldscatalog Church Directory of Leaders LDSMail Missionary Online Recommendation System Ward and Stake web sites Temple Entry System (stake only) Member and Leader Services (for software updates) and the list goes on.... --Richard On 29 Feb 2008 at 16:42, Don Colton wrote: >From LDSClerks: Please see bottom of this message for subscription >instructions and list URL. - - Effective February 29, 2008, stake presidents in the North America Southwest Area may authorize and fund, out of local unit budgets, broadband Internet connections for meetinghouses within their stakes. How much faster is it? My typical connect is ten minutes. Don _______________________________________________ >From LDSClerks: Please do not send copyrighted material to LDSClerks. See list info at: http://lists.mormonstoday.com/listinfo/ldsclerks -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.1/1301 - Release Date: 2/27/2008 8:35 AM From jwaynerogers at hotmail.com Fri Feb 29 21:32:00 2008 From: jwaynerogers at hotmail.com (Wayne Rogers) Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 21:32:00 -0600 Subject: LDSC: Internet w/o Family History Center In-Reply-To: <47C8BC9F.8030000@gmail.com> References: <47C8BC9F.8030000@gmail.com> Message-ID: We have a unit in a small town that has the phone service through McClaud. the Church pays the bill, all we see is how much. The unit had a real bad dialup line and were having a hard time transmiting. I emailed the department responsible for paying for the phone bills and told them the situation, adding that DSL cost the same as the bad line. They ordered the DSL line, had it installed, and little Carrizo Springs Branch is very happy. It is paid for by the Church. Now it looks like I need to get the FM group to get the security equipment for them. Wayne in Del Rio, TX, District Clerk> > After installation, would these become reimbursable phone charges, or is > the stake on the hook long-term? We have one building still running at > 14.4 kbps, so this is intriguing.> > Larry Jackson> > > _______________________________________________> >From LDSClerks: Please do not send copyrighted material to LDSClerks.> See list info at: > http://lists.mormonstoday.com/listinfo/ldsclerks _________________________________________________________________ Climb to the top of the charts!?Play the word scramble challenge with star power. http://club.live.com/star_shuffle.aspx?icid=starshuffle_wlmailtextlink_jan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.mormonstoday.com/pipermail/ldsclerks/attachments/20080229/c0ac6384/attachment.htm From don at colton.byuh.edu Fri Feb 29 22:36:40 2008 From: don at colton.byuh.edu (Don Colton) Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 18:36:40 -1000 Subject: LDSC: Internet w/o Family History Center Message-ID: <200803010436.m214aevF023673@colton.byuh.edu> If we get Internet for our Stake Center, can we add WiFi?